Too many Dingleberries !! :lol: Is there anyone but me who thinks that WVU with Brown as QB has the potential to be more potent on offense? Pat White is a great player and is an adequate passer, but Brown has a rifle arm with an accurate deep ball and can break tackles with his strength. You can't play -0- D against Brown like you can against White and you saw WVU move the ball well in the 2nd half when USF abandoned that D. Don't count WVU out. There is still a lot of football to be played, and their D looks a little better than last year, although they sorely miss Mozes @ center.
:lol: 8) WVU was overrated....USF had better athletes in number vs a couple for WVU. Simple math...the better team won and WVU is not done losing...even in the weak Big East.
You are wrong Gonz. USF just had the right formula and barely enough offense for beating WVU. They also had a lot of energy, crowd support and momentum. USF is a great cinderella story, just like Rutgers was last year and apparently just like Cincinnatti is this year. That is a team on the rise in the national picture and one of the many reasons why Miami is in a decline The Big East is going to be a dog fight and no team will escaped unscathed.
No way <t>part of what works for West Virginia is that speed that White has in spades over Brown.<br/> <br/> Brown may be a better pocket passer, but they've had those at West Virginia before... Rich R's system is better suited to a strong armed, running QB.</t>
I dont agree AJ <t>respectfully of course.<br/> <br/> South Florida beat them last year in Morgantown and again this year in Tampa.<br/> <br/> This isn't a perfect storm or 'just one of those days'... South Florida is better.</t>
:lol: 8) AJ....even in our present rebuilding situation....I don't think either WVU or USF are unbeatable vs Miami.....some teams are just overrated and WVU has two to three good athletes and thats it.....USF has far more athletes on their squad.....maybe not as fast.....but just more in numbers. The better team won.....mano a mano....I am not surprised and neither is Rich Rodriguez
Brown doesn't have White's speed or home run potential, but he is athletic and strong enough to break tackles where White will go down in an arm slap. In option ball the bigger stronger QB is more desirable. White does not have Brown's arm, He throws a soft ball. The difference between White and throwing QB like Brown is the vertical pressure he places on the D. White's passes are to the flanks and sidelines. Brown can hum it up the middle and downfield. When you can go vertical in a spread offense, you are unbeatable as you have the potential to attack the entire field. A QB like Brown backs up the safeties, White does not which is why USF has found some success playing -0- D and the only reason they won last year.
what makes WVU so tough <t>is that they have so many HR threats on the field at one time.<br/> <br/> Brown is not one of those threats, in fact, he makes it easier to defend the run.<br/> <br/> He's not a lay down, don't get me wrong.. I'd just rather be a DC facing WVU with Brown at QB than White.</t>
Let's get one thing straight. Brown still has a ways to go to be a great QB. What we are talking about is types of QB's that would be more effective in WVU's spread offense. Regardless of who plays QB , WVU offense is a scheme that attacks horizontally as a spread offense. The QB is the focal part of the offense . He is reading the D on the fly, so you also have this mental aspect that enters the equation. What I am saying is that all things being equal who is the more desirable QB, one who can fly @ 4.35 , goes down easily in traffic and does not have a cannon for an arm or one is bulkier, tougher to tackler maybe 4.5-4.6 MROB speed but can rifle a ball with accuracy deep down field? The big guy with the arm adds an entirely different dimension to their offense. You can't crowd the line as much because he can burn you deep. He backs up the safeties which gives more room to operate for the tailback , fullback and QB. WVU is very fortunate to have a QB with Brown's ability.
you can't <t>because you are asking me to assume 'all things being equal' and then immediately you differentiate between the abilities of the QBs.<br/> <br/> IMHO, what has helped WVU is White HR threat as a runner. The fact that he can break the 70yd TD in a heart beat does more to keep those safeties honest than Brown's cannon arm.<br/> <br/> That incredible speed forces you to break the game down to one on one matchups... If the LB or DL don't make the one on one tackle in the backfield, he's gone... that is, if he even has the ball... White makes Slaton better.</t>
Pretty funny AJ. :lol: :lol: :lol: Johnny Dingle was a Gator recruit that had trouble with our admissions office. We really wanted him. Dingle Berry! :lol: :lol:
Corey <r><QUOTE><s> </e></QUOTE> I don’t think I have expressed myself well in this conversation. You are right in that if you have a gift horse, you keep running him. Most college football defenses can’t defend well against this type of offense.<br/> <br/> We’ll pick this up another time. I didn’t mean to talk as much about Brown & White as I intended to discuss tactical advantages of tweaking a running spread option.</r>
OK Corey, but how do you answer this? Auburn did the same thing to Florida. Would you make the same statement about Auburn? K-State did the same thing to Texas. Would you make the same statement about K-State ? This imho is a classic style vs. style, coach vs. coach, with a little confidence factor mixed in. Some teams can beat certain teams. Doesn’t mean they are better, just means that they know how to play them.
Florida has that luxury. Teams like WVU have to take some chances. If I'm not mistaken Dingle got a sack in the game.... ....or was it Berry :lol:
I have no idea how WVU got Noel Devine into school and past the NCAA clearing house. Even FSU backed off on him.
Probably took a refresher course and took the exam over. We see this quite often, kids not eligible at the signing deadline, who subsequently get qualified.