Who Can You Trust???

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  1. Stu Ryckman

    Stu Ryckman Well-Known Member

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    When you can't trust the "fact checkers" it gets even harder to sort out the truth.

    http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/083012-624188-so-called-fact-checks-disguise-media-liberal-agenda.htm
     
  2. Stu Ryckman

    Stu Ryckman Well-Known Member

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    I have now run across three articles in two days finding mistakes and bias by the "fact checkers"...

    http://www.nrapublications.org/index.php/14086/political-report-29/
     
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    I can't believe that there is any doubt that Obama raided over 700 billion from Medicare. Hell he had to do that with 10 years of taxes for 6 years of benefits and the stolen money Obamacare was "deficit neutral"
    There was a reason why tens of thousands of members left AARP after they endorsed the theft. These media folks are hopeless.
     
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    Although being a member for only 4 years, I recended my membership to AARP when this happened.
     
  5. Stu Ryckman

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    Here's another example of my disdain with "fact checkers"...at least the local Cleveland Politifact.

    I find that they do a pretty good job of putting the facts out...but then their rulings just astound me sometimes. It seems to my (biased) eyes that the same inaccuracies that lead to a "mostly false" ruling for Republicans lead to a "partly true" ruling for Dems.

    Here they are criticizing Rob Portman for saying at the RNC that Obama "Never started a business...never even worked in a business"

    Do you think that merited a "Partly true" rating? Or even a "mostly false" rating?....nope...they called it "False".

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/aug/29/rob-portman/gop-convention-rob-portman-says-barack-obama-never/
    Really? He understands business because he worked a couple of cases for a law firm and wrote a book?...and a newsletter?

    Alright...I would go along with something other than "absolutely true" but the POINT is true and that should at least make it rated "partly true".

    PLUS...they are basing the rating on only the second half of his sentence...not the whole statement.
     
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    :wink: Jim and I no longer belong to AARP after receiving the letters w. their opinions on how we should vote and think. we decided it wasnt for us. after we left we received at least 5 items a week asking us to come back fat chance....... they sit hand in hand w. Obama and his misguided cronies company I prefer not to be associated with/
     
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    Here's another one...AP tried "fact changing" 2016: Obama's America.

    http://mobile.thewrap.com/thewrap/db_/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=RX4ulLht&full=true#display
     
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    Too Funny: Obama Campaign Says “We Care About Facts”…

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    Could have fooled us.


    CHARLOTTE, N.C. — The Obama campaign said Tuesday that they care about the truth of their attacks.

    “We work very hard to get it right. We look at the facts. We vet what we say,” Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt said in an ABC/Yahoo News panel.

    Asked by ABC’s Jake Tapper about exaggerations or untruths in recent Obama campaign rhetoric (including an incorrect claim that Romney’s old firm took a government bailout), the campaign insisted that they care about the truth and respect the journalists charged with checking their rhetoric.

    “We do care about fact checks. We do care about the honesty of our own ads,” deputy campaign manager Stephanie Cutter
     
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    Obama At DNC: “I Will Never Turn Medicare Into A Voucher” – Next Day: HHS Pilot Program To Send 2 Million Poor Seniors From Medicare Into Voucher Programs…

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    And I will — I will never turn Medicare into a voucher.

    That promise didn’t last long because the next day his administration approved a program that did just that.

    Via National Journal:


    In his convention speech in Charlotte, President Obama vowed to block the Republican Medicare reform plan because “no American should ever have to spend their golden years at the mercy of insurance companies.”

    But back in Washington, his Health and Human Services Department is launching a pilot program that would shift up to 2 million of the poorest and most-vulnerable seniors out of the federal Medicare program and into private health insurance plans overseen by the states.

    The administration has accepted applications from 18 states to participate in the program, which would give states money to purchase managed-care plans for people who are either disabled or poor enough to qualify for both Medicare and Medicaid. HHS approved the first state plan, one for Massachusetts, last month.