Umm...I think some have wanted to see this comparison in light of the fact that Florida playing Western Carolina reduces the Gator's schedule to a lineup of cupcakes in their opinion. Notre Dame opponents bowl record: 2-5 Florida opponents bowl record: 6-3 ( one favorite left to play) Could be a final tally of 7-3 for Florida and 2-5 for ND.....and that's not to mention one certain opponent for Florida that ND ran afoul of down in New Orleans. Yeah...that's the equalizer when I read Western Carolina....I'll just type LSU..... 8) But the Gators wouldn't be where they are if they couldn't have had WCar to kick around and impress the voters with...... :wink:
When you make the arguement that you won more games than Michigan did, you actually pretend that the game against W. Car. was a "game." If beating a bottom of its division team in D2A means that you won more "games" than Michigan did fine. Show your Gator pride. BTW 2 of ND's opponents played each other in a BCS bowl. One had to lose. Your whole bowl record comparison is stupid.
"When you make the arguement that you won more games than Michigan did, you actually pretend that the game against W. Car. was a "game" Don't believe that was the comparison I hung my hat on Gipper. The Mich-UF argument was more like UF won it's conference and Mich did not. I have never equated the WCar game to anything important in the comparisons other than it hurt Fla. On the bowl comparison.....ND's opponents UM-USC were also guaranteed a win by playing each other.
I think it's painfully obvious to us that Fla is better, what you have to worry about is not wheter Fla is better than ND or that Fla played a tougher schedule than ND, but is Fla better than Ohio State. Tomorrow night we will find out. BTW, anyway you slice it WCarolina really shouldn't even be counted as a win since they were not only a 1AA school, but a really bad one at that. Gators would have had more competition playing Gainesville High School.
I didn't necessarly mean that you made the arguement. One of the many whining arguements that were made as to why the Gators should leap Michigan was that the won more games. I found that to be weak at best.
That's true about WCar Terry. But in no way does that lone game detract from the toughness quotient of UF's schedule as evidenced by the probable 7-3 bowl record of 10 Florida opponents. Some have tried to ignore these 10 games in favor of the one game vs. WCar and that is obviously not anything more than an attempt to antagonize. The reason I pursue this is that until the pendulum swings the other way in dramatic fashion between the ND and Fla comparison I listed I think I will initiate the argument first every season. Let's see when and if ND's schedule can ever catch up to Florida's.
If I'm not mistaken, the team with the best winning streak in bowls right now is BC. They just beat Navy. What does that prove? Not much as far as I'm concerned. Tell ya what, if OSU beats Fla. in the BCS game can we agree that the Big Ten is by far the toughest conference in the country based on a 3-0 record vs the SEC?
Why are we even discussing this? The game is tomorrow, the whole deal about wheter Mich was more deserving than UF or vice versa is moot. Mich got clocked by USC. It's too bad you live in Mich where there are mostly Mich fans, but I think if you did a poll now, it would come out pretty heavily that the UF/OSU game is the correct game for the NC.
Read the whole thread. That's not the issue. Someone wants to keep bringing up W.Car. because it gnaws at him. Hey, after the game, I'll be able to tell you which team probably should have played in the Championship game. Afterwards it's really easy.
Terry...call this topic preemptive for next year and beyond. I think UF adds The Citadel or somebody like that and I don't want to keep hearing the same boring...irritating crap over and over. This is not about Michigan and in fact in today's Free Press there is an article about how UF belongs in the NC game. This topic is to point out that the the WCarolinas on the UF schedule do not negate the entire schedule. It does negate that particular week in my opinion but you have to consider the schedule as a whole obviously. The LSU's are more important because there are a lot more LSU's on the UF schedule than WCarolinas. To answer the question if Fla loses to OSU will I consider the Big Ten the toughest conference in America......not unless you consider that ND, Nebraska and Va Tech and Clemson don't belong in the Big Ten talent wise.
READ MY LIPS....I DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH THA....... Wait a second, that's not what I wanted to say. READ MY LIPS....OSU 45 UF 17.
"In other words "I'll use bowl wins to prove my point but ignore them if it doesn't suit my purpose" Who is negating bowl wins to suit their own purpose here? The SEC will be at worst 5-4 and the Big Ten at best 3-6. So....no....the Big Ten will not be the toughest conference in America.
holy sh*t <r><QUOTE><s> </e></QUOTE> why? because they didn't get to play more bowl games vs the SEC?</r>
I'll give you the Big East on the Bowl record anyway but I would like to have seen them play the teams the SEC has/will play in the bowls and then see how they do. Of course though...you and Corey are saying that VaTech, ND, Clemson and Nebraska couldn't compete in the Big Ten so those bowl wins for the SEC don't count..
"Oh now all of a sudden opponents in bowls is important....funny how that works." Huh? When did I say bowl opponents were of no concern or relevance? The SEC has traditionally placed teams in bowls vs. top notch competition except for maybe those SEC-Big Ten match-ups.......(kidding)