This might be the last team to have a shot at beating BSU. Tulsa is a decent CUSA team and being a road game for BSU maybe Tulsa can get lucky. Doubt it though. I'm not sure I really like the idea of a Wed night game. Just seems wrong. I know it's all about the money and I'm sure both teams figure being the only game on will give them "national" exposure. But it still seems wrong.
Terry, It's yet another product of the system. The big6/bcs controls the TV who control what teams play on air and what teams don't.
I'm sure if you watched and heard Reese Davis say that the ESPN BCS "expert" say that for Boise State to reach the BCS Championship game that all the contenders would have to lose 2 times while Boise remained undefeated.
And we thought SEC officials try to inject themselves into the game??? Whoever these guys are, they are trying their best to keep Boise State from losing. I have never heard of a 5 yard penalty for sideline infraction. Tulsa made a valiant effort. Boise State did not look like the number 25 team in the nation... much less, #5.
Eh.. once again. For anyone else.. you go on the road to face a 4-1 team whose only loss is on the road to Oklahoma AND who hasn't given up a rushing TD all year long...and any win is good enough. Except, when you're Boise State playing on a Wed night under those circumstances.. If you're Boise, you have to win with style points. sheer faggotry. I really hate the BCS.
I'm with Corey on this one. Unless you are playing a DivII team, any road win is a good win. Everyone knows you don't play your best game every week. Sometimes you just have to get out with a W. Maybe BSU is deserving and maybe they aren't, but it sounds like we'll never know. Of course... a playoff would solve the problem.
meh...Bosie will get into a BCS game....Tulsa was hammered by OU 45-0 and that was without Sam Bradford. No way with their schedule they deserve to be in the BCS championship game, sorry. Of course they do have to go to Moscow, I hear that his a real pit for the opposing team. I mean with the Red Army and all.
Terry, I believe OU was in Norman.. Of course, somehow playing road games is the same as home games when you're Boise. You'd think that a guy whose team (well 2nd team) was fortunate to get by sh*tty Colorado at home would be more understanding And Florida fans, you should be the last folks talking about style points right now.. Oh... that's right, those are SEC and Big 12 games..they must be tough
Touche'! We may yet get to see BSU vs Texas in the Fiesta Bowl if Texas doesn't make it to the NC game! BTW the supposed 2nd best team in the WAC, who came to South Bend fully healthy (an supposedly outstanding QB) and having all summer to game plan for the Irish put up Zero points on a ND defense that has given up 30 points to everybody else. Yet another reason to believe that Boise in spite of a nice win at home vs Oregon does not have the schedule to challenge them and why they don't deserve a BCS champ game appearance anymore than Samford or Troy.
That Nevada team marched up and down on us too. They imploded in the red zone and had some bad turnovers. They moved the ball at will against Missouri as well.. but then again, like ND, the Big 12 isn't known for defense lately. You can put Boise on the level with Samford and Troy if you want to but with the SEC having teams losing to Army and Houston this past week, I'm not buying into this 'vaunted conference schedule' thing... Oh I know... Houston beat Okie State too (*cough* big12 pattern *cough) and I am sure they are a nice story. That didn't keep them from being beaten by at home by UTEP. Maybe some of those teams don't suck as much? Maybe the depth of these conferences is vastly overrated?
Corey, I am not making accusations of mediocrity as far as Boise goes. I like the guys. I used to go to one or two Broncos games each year when I was teaching at Micron in Boise fairly regularly. I actually went to a Boise State vs North Texas game on Tennessee/Bama weekend. My views expressed earlier were simply a snapshot view of that single game. They did not look like $5 material in that game!
Zero points is ZERO points and for what it's worth they had the lowest offensive output of all our opponents. That's with a returning vet at QB who was getting a lot of preseason love, and 2 returning 1000yd rushers. Also they had the fewest # of 1st downs of all our opponents this year. I can't exactly say they moved it up and down the field on the Irish. Point is that the WAC schedule is weak, on par with the Big South. I give BSU kudo's for playing Oregon and if they run the table I have no problem with them playing in a BCS Bowl. It'll add some spice and intrigue to the bowl season. Hell if Texas wins the B12 and doesn't play in the NC game then bring'em on to the Fiesta Bowl. I'd love to kick their arses!! As far as Houston beating MSU, Houston is a good team and Army beating Vanderbilt is just sweet those guys have been down for awhile I'd like to see them get back to respectable. Maybe they are headed up finally. But then MSU and Vandy are teams that outsiders can beat and do beat on a regular basis. Doesn't mean SEC isn't good.
You're out of your mind if you think the WAC is on the same level as the Big South. The Big South is a IAA conference made up of Stony Brook, Gardner-Webb, Coastal Carolina, Liberty, Charleston Southern, Presbyterian and VMI. No way, no how, not even in the same ball park. This is clearly one of those situations that, when it all plays out, will most likely favor Boise but no one will want to give them any credit. It is too easy to pigeon hole them right now. Their weak schedule at the moment includes Fresno State who sits at 2-3. Fresno's 3 losses came to Wisconsin, Boise State and Cincinnati. The combined record of those teams is 16-1 at the moment. Their losses to Cincinnati and Wisconsin were both very close games. Only the loss to Boise was a butt kicking. I'm betting they wind up somewhere around 9-3 or 8-4 on the year. Nevada seems to have found their offense (they struggled the week after us as well) Nevada may well wind up a 7 or 8 win team. Idaho sits at 5-1 but will drop... although their lone loss came to Washington and they have some decent wins already. Don't get me wrong, I'm not here to say the WAC is any great shakes but even mediocre teams in the WAC would drop 30 point beat downs on teams from the Big South. That is BEYOND a stretch or hyperbole. That's like saying your daughter is safe dating a USC football player.
My, my Corey, you have a eloquent way with words. I'm not sure what it has to do with this conversation, but indeed eloquent. As to the topic, I personally believe that Texas, Florida and Alabama all have much tougher schedules that Boise State. I wish them well but they are not better than a one loss Florida, Alabama, Texas or several other teams. sheer logic.
Big South...oops I meant Sunbelt Conference, that's where Troy and Samford are isn't it? :roll: :roll:
Bill, You don't know that. All you can do is 'guess.' I realize that winning all of your games isn't really important in southern football but there is a lot to be said for beating everyone on your schedule..
Terry, Since the 2004 season SEC members have lost to: Middle Tennessee St. *Duke Wyoming x2 Louisiana-Monroe Utah Houston X2 Tulane Louisiana Tech Maine UAB Navy Ohio Army Duke gets the asterisk because they are technically a 'BCS conference' school. The rest are not. Mind you, this isn't a '10 or 20 year' sample. That's just from the 2004 season onto this week. In that time frame, the SEC has been riding higher than every before. In that time frame they have, in the media's eyes, clearly established themselves as the cream of the football crop. They've won 3 National Titles and had another team go unbeaten and out of the title game in that time frame.. Yet, they look human to me.