Trump travel "ban" article

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  1. WSU1996kesley

    WSU1996kesley Well-Known Member

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    Food for thought:

    http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/europes-border-crisis/majority-leading-eu-nations-support-trump-style-travel-ban-poll-n718271
     
  2. Scott88

    Scott88 Well-Known Member

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    What?
    How can this be?
    Those "enlightened and educated" Europeans are on board?
     
  3. RECcane

    RECcane Well-Known Member

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    No way!!! They MUST be misinformed that's not what the United States media is saying nor the Democrats....Unless...Oh yeah they lost to President Trump and I'm just guessing here, they may have a different agenda...

    But that kind of thought process is "fake news" simply ignore it and tune into MSNBC or CNN or laugh with us along with Saturday night live, yeah that's it...Carry on
     
  4. HUSKERMAN-HUSKERFAN

    HUSKERMAN-HUSKERFAN Well-Known Member

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    Dave!!...Good news!!...it's spreading!!!...already hitting Euro beaches!!..Kesley approves!!....Lime King approves!!! ....ALL HAIL THE LIME KING!!
     
  5. RECcane

    RECcane Well-Known Member

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    :shock: Meanwhile a voice speaks out from the Yazidis..
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    Oh wait it's explained here for the world, what was I thinking....Forgive me Cher, Ashley Judd and Stephen Baldwin..

     
  6. Sid

    Sid Well-Known Member

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  7. George Krebs

    George Krebs Well-Known Member

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    It is fascinating to watch our elected officials and appointed judiciary fighting for the unfettered rights of immigrants who hail from nations who have unabashedly sworn to Allah the desteuction and extermination of Christian and Jewish nations for decades.
     
  8. Motorcity Gator

    Motorcity Gator Well-Known Member

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    If I was unfortunate enough to be a non-Isis resident of any of those terrorists torn states in the middle east I would do the best I could to blend in to the woodwork... to fly way under the radar and stay the **** away from those extremists that might just target you or your family for the next beheading. I don't think protesting and raising a stink in public would be flying under the radar.

    That said I am not against a form of the travel ban....but I do think the vetting of legit people with legit reasons should be intensified so they are not prevented from travel to the U.S.

    I have never been in favor of throwing all lumps of coal together in one large sack.... there needs to be an effort to weed out the questionable characters from the legit travelers.
     
  9. WSU1996kesley

    WSU1996kesley Well-Known Member

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    Here is the full text of the "ban":

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/28/politics/text-of-trump-executive-order-nation-ban-refugees/


    My abridged version:

    Sec. 3(a) directs Homeland Security, State, and the DNI to determine what information is necessary to screen individuals.

    Sec. 3(b) directs Homeland Security, State, and the DNI to submit a report of this information, as well as a list of countries that do not provide adequate information with which to screen individuals.

    Sec. 3(c) temporarily suspends entry for 90 days so that resources can concentrate on figuring out how to properly screen those seeking to enter. This excludes foreign nationals traveling on diplomatic visas, NATO visas, C-2 visas for travel to the UN, and G-1, G-2, G-3, and G-4 visas.

    Sec. 3(d) directs State upon receipt of the report to request foreign governments that currently do not supply the required information identified, to start providing the information regarding their nationals within 60 days.

    Sec. 3(e) after the 60-day period, directs Homeland Security and State to provide a list of countries that do not provide the information requested and recommend which countries should be on a list prohibiting entry (same exclusions apply from c)

    Sec. 3(f) allows State and Homeland Security to ammend the list.

    Sec. 3(g) allows State and Homeland Security to make exceptions on a case-by-case basis.

    Sec. 3(h) directs State and Homeland Security to provide progress reports.

    Sec. 4(a) directs State, Homeland Security, DNI, and FBI director to implement screening standards for those who intend or are at risk to cause harm. This also includes development of the screening procedure.

    Sec. 4(b) directs Homeland Security, State, DNI and FBI director to submit progress reports.

    Sec. 5(a) directs State to temporarily suspend refugee entry for 120 days. During this time, State, Homeland Security and DNI to identify what procedures are required so refugees do not pose a threat. Applicants already in the process can be admitted once the procedures are implemented. After 120 days, admissions resume for nationals from countries State, Homeland Security, and DNI agree the procedures are adequate to ensure security and welfare of the US.

    Sec. 5(b) directs State and Homeland Security to make changes TO THE EXTENT PERMITTED BY LAW to prioritize refugees on the basis of religious persecution for those practicing minority religions in their nation.

    Sec. 5(c) suspends entry from Syria until changes to the refugee program are sufficient to screen entrants.

    Sec. 5(d) suspends entry of more than 50,000 refugees in 2017.

    Sec. 5(e) allows State and Homeland Security to make exceptions on a case-by-case basis.

    Sec. 5(f) directs State to provide progress reports regarding prioritizaton.

    Sec. 5(g) directs State and Local jurisdictions be provided a role in determining settlement placement in their jurisdictions.

    Sec. 6 directs State and Homeland Security with the AG to consider rescinding exercises of authority as relates to terrorism grounds of inadmissibility.

    Sec. 7(a) directs Homeland Security to expedite entry-exit tracking systems.

    Sec. 7(b) directs Homeland Security to provide progress reports.

    Sec. 8(a) directs State to suspend interview waivers.

    Sec. 8(b) directs State to the extent permitted by law and funding to expand consular fellows .

    Sec. 9 directs State to review all visa reciprocity agreements and make them reciprical.

    Sec. 10(a) directs Homeland Security and the AG to comply with applicable law to collect and make public every 180 days:
    Sec. 10(b) directs State to provide long-term costs of the refugee program.

    Sec. 11(a) clarifies the order cannot be interpreted to impair or affect:
    - (i) authority granted by law to an executive department or agency
    - (ii) functions of the OMB related to budget, administration or legislative proposals

    Sec. 11(b) directs the implementation to be consistent with applicable law and appropriations

    Sec. 11(c)
     
  10. WSU1996kesley

    WSU1996kesley Well-Known Member

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    There may be a couple things in there that could use some tweaking, but overall, I see very little to be up in arms about. And in fact, it appears to do what should have been done 15 years ago. It plugs the hole, while directing things to be fixed so once the patch is removed, things work how they're supposed to work.
     
  11. Motorcity Gator

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    Seems ok to me and as I say I am in favor of some kind of intensified efforts to keep out bad people.
     
  12. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    The left and the leftist media in this country continue to just make up stuff...
    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/02/14/bill-oreilly-stunning-display-dishonesty-from-national-press-and-radical-left.html