The Orlando Sentiental has a chart of the total revenues for FBS schools (Div1). Not much is shocking, Texas brings in the most money, but I am somewhat suprised that ND is not in the top 10 instead they are #14. The report says total revenues, so I'm not sure if that means total football revenues or for all sports. If it's for all sports then I can see as while the Irish do have a lot of non-football sports we probably don't make much off of them. Even mens basketball, which averages less than 10K/game at home probably doesn't help bring in much revenue. I do remember other reports where I believe the revenues were only football and we did fine, in the top 5 I believe. <pre> 1st Texas $120,288,370 Big 12 2nd Ohio State $117,953,712 Big Ten 3rd Florida $106,030,895 Southeastern Conference 4th Michigan $99,027,105 Big Ten 5th Wisconsin $93,452,334 Big Ten 6th Penn State $91,570,233 Big Ten 7th Auburn $89,305,326 Southeastern Conference 8th Alabama $88,869,810 Southeastern Conference 9th Tennessee $88,719,798 Southeastern Conference 10th Oklahoma State $88,554,438 Big 12 11th Kansas $86,009,257 Big 12 12th Louisiana State $84,183,362 Southeastern Conference 13th Georgia $84,020,180 Southeastern Conference 14th Notre Dame $83,352,439 Independent 15th Iowa $81,148,310 Big Ten 16th Michigan State $77,738,746 Big Ten 17th Oklahoma $77,098,009 Big 12 18th Stanford $76,661,466 Pac-10 19th University of Southern California $76,409,919 Pac-10 20th Nebraska $75,492,884 Big 12</pre> Complete Chart
I would expect that ND's drop in the revenue sweepstakes would be blowback from too many average to below average years in a row.
That appears to me to be revenue from all sports. Duke it the top revenue in the ACC and Miami and FSU rank 51 and 53. I will be curious to see the numbers next year after the SEC football contracts kick in. I also am surprised that Notre Dame isn't higher.
Yes I am Terry. I see Rutgers brings in more money than both Miami and FSU and that does surprise me. Of course they made brilliant moves in going to the Big East and ACC instead of the SEC. I'm sure that raised their revenue considerably.
I'm also surprised that Oklahoma State brings in the 2nd most money in the Big 12 and that Georgia isn't higher. I remember a similar analysis a few years ago where Georgia brought in the most in the SEC.
There is no drop. There is no "blowback." ND's revenues are as high as they've ever been. Look at the list. Every single one of the schools above ND is a large state institution covering a very large, heavily concentrated population base with tens of thousands of alumni & fans within less than a day's drive from the school, except perhaps for Texas, which geographically and population-wise dwarfs everyone else. The markets for merchandise sales alone for these state schools is much, much bigger than ND's. I'm not surprised. ND is the largest non-state school followed by Stanford and SoCal. Its alumni base is a fraction of the state schools, but its national fan following is significant enough to boost it higher than the other non-state schools.
That Texas and OSU are 1 and 2 in revenue does not surprise me given that their big bucks alumni can hire a driver to transport them around town on their weekend outings
LOL! It's a good thing I wasn't drinking coffee when I read this. I would have shorted out my monitor. :lol:
SID... PUT DOWN THE COFFEE BEFORE READING THIS THE ABOVE ADDED AS A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT BY TENNESSEE TOM Brief Unedited Transcript in Limosine: Passenger 1: Hey, driver, you look a hellava lot more pudgy since the last time I saw you. Bet you wish you could afford a personal trainer like the one I have? Chauffeurine: Why, yes, Mr. Terry, I think I put on maybe 10-15 pounds or so since that time. But you sho' look nice and trim. I wish I had the money to afford a trainer but things are real tough for me and the Mrs. right now... Passenger 1: (Interrupting) Yeah, I figured you couldn't afford one. By the way, now that we are at the hotel, why don't you drive us to the ball park. Passenger 2: But, it's only a 2 minute walk to the park... Passenger 1: What school did the driver come from? Make him earn his money. Passenger 2: Good point. F**K Michigan, as we say in Columbus. Passenger 1: By the way, driver, before we get to the park, would you stop at the party store to pick up some mint julep mix for Mr. Sid and me and some Dominican cigars for Mr. Sid. And here's 2 bucks for you to buy a pack of smokes but don't smoke em in the stretch limo, dammit. Oh, did I mention that the Wolverines sucked last year? What was the score in that game in South Bend last year? Chauffeurine: We sho' did suck big time, sir. Why you wouldda thought that Linda Lovelace was our coach. ( forced chuckle from Chaufferine) That South Bend game, sir. I think it was 260-8 in favor of Notre Dame, Mr. Terry. Passenger 2: Party store is on the left, driver. Try not to cut anyone off, this time…..
LOL...if we had a Hall of Fame for posts that combo by Bobda would be in on the first ballot!!! :wink: :wink: :wink:
Bobda, you are amazing. You are relatively quiet compared to the rest of us chatty Kathies, but I'm guessing it's because you know you learn more by listening than by talking. You absorb all around you, then when your fingers hit the keyboard, you become a maestro of intelligent wit. That dialogue is priceless.
Man, you bastards have some rich schools. WAZZU = 39.6M, ouch. Code: <i> </i>Conference Total revenue Average per school Big Ten $ 840,609,482 $ 76,419,044 SEC $ 853,790,632 $ 71,149,219 Big 12 $ 797,769,024 $ 66,480,752 Pac-10 $ 587,672,004 $ 58,767,200 ACC $ 648,921,163 $ 54,076,764 Ind. $ 103,310,348 $ 51,655,174 Big East $ 364,427,638 $ 45,553,455 MWC $ 276,800,202 $ 30,755,578 C-USA $ 308,481,690 $ 25,706,808 WAC $ 184,072,761 $ 20,452,529 MAC $ 259,970,993 $ 19,997,769 Sun Belt $ 110,459,084 $ 13,807,386
And that's before the new tv contract kicks in for the SEC. I am surprised the Pac 10 doesn't do better.
Bottom line is that most of America doesn't really care about what happens on the West Coast unless it involves Brittany Spears, Jennifer Aniston, Angelina/Brad, etc. They play exciting football, have tremendous programs in all sports, but they are just out of sight out of mind.
All I can say is that we damn near got lost both driving to and from the park...and you can see our hotel from the seats we were in. :shock:
Re the Pac10. I honestly believes it gets down to the Admins and the mission of each school. Those schools have proven time and time again to hire Admins that get played by the other big fish out there. They negotiate bad bowl deals, bad TV deals and generally bad marketing deals all the way around. Do you really think people anywhere outside of the southeast and the most diehard of college football fans in the midwest/west give 2 hoots about what happens in Louisiana, Florida, Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi and Tennessee? They don't. The truth is.. those schools have marketed themselves well. They have presented a brand that can be marketed all across the country. On field results don't matter, and the BCS system itself basically endorses the practice of marketing over substance. The Pac10 absolutely missed the boat on that one. They make no aggressive move to counter the media machine that is the SEC or Big10 for that matter. That isn't an attack on those conferences.. Kudos to them for hustling to get what is best for theirs. I remember watching last year... Cal goes out to play Maryland.. The Terps pull out all the stops.. They move the kick off up to early in the day (making it essentially a 9am game for Cal). The Terps raced out to a 28-6 lead in the 3rd quarter... the Bears shot themselves in the foot making mistakes they didn't commit before or after all year. Then Cal woke up and Maryland was holding on for dear life. They wound up winning 35-27 with the whole thing coming down to an onside kick and a play ruled as 'heads up' by Maryland which was later ruled a penalty later that week in another game. After that game, the talking heads absolutely blasted the Pac10 as being USC and no one. It didn't matter that Cal had just beaten Michigan St 2 weeks ago. They were weak. The conference was losing to Mountain West teams for God's sakes.. They are awful. That might not be reality, but that is/was certainly the media perception. The very next week, Florida goes down to Ole Miss. A team fresh off their loss to Vandy who would be beaten by South Carolina the next week. Ole Miss, a team beaten by Wake Forest earlier in the year. What does that show? That the SEC is just the toughest conference in the land... When the dust settled at the end of the year and the bowl season we learned.. The Pac10 was actually pretty damned good, even in a down year for them.. The Mountain West was awfully damned good... and the SEC was really not a very good, or deep conference at all. That's not a slam on the SEC. They were a good conference last year. They produced yet another NC.. but there is this perception that they are just light years better than everyone. The onfield results just don't play that out. However, the reason they are in the better bowl games and in the bigger TV slots has VERY much to do with the efforts of those negotiating those contracts..and putting their kids in the best position to claim a title. Kudos to them.