Thought-provoking Commentary re: Immigration

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  1. Sid

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    We received an email from a relative with this commentary. Maybe some of you have seen it. Like all internet commentaries, I don't know if the claimed source is valid, but for me it is quite thought-provoking.

    WARNING: This is long, but you must read the entire text to get the message the author is trying to convey. It begins in the next paragraph:

    We know Dick Lamm as the former Governor of Colorado. In that context his thoughts are particularly poignant. Last week there was an immigration overpopulation conference in Washington, DC, filled to capacity by many of American's finest minds and leaders. A brilliant college professor by the name of Victor Hansen Davis talked about his latest book, “Mexifornia," explaining how immigration - both legal and illegal was destroying the entire state of California. He said it would march across the country until it destroyed all vestiges of The American Dream.

    Moments later, former Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm stood up and gave a stunning speech on how to destroy America. The audience sat spellbound as he described eight methods for the destruction of the United States. He said, "If you believe that America is too smug, too self-satisfied, too rich, then let's destroy America. It is not that hard to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and that 'An autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.'"

    Here is how they do it," Lamm said:

    "First, to destroy America, turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bicultural country." History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. The historical scholar, Seymour Lipset, put it this way: "The histories of bilingual and bi-cultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy." Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, and Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons, and Corsicans.

    Lamm went on: “Second, to destroy America, invent 'multiculturalism' and encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. I would make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal, that there are no cultural differences. I would make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due solely to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds.”

    “Third, we could make the United States an 'Hispanic Quebec' without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity.” As Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: "The apparent success of our own multiethnic and multicultural experiment might have been achieved not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentricity and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together." Lamm said, "I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have various cultural subgroups living in America enforcing their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities."

    "Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated, and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50% dropout rate from high school."

    "My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of 'Victimology.' I would get all minorities to think that their lack of success was the fault of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority population."

    "My sixth plan for America's downfall would include dual citizenship and promote divided loyalties. I would celebrate diversity over unity. I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other - that is, when they are not killing each other. A diverse, peaceful, or stable society is against most historical precedent. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation together. Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common language and literature; and they worshipped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic games. A common enemy, Persia, threatened their liberty. Yet all these bonds were not strong enough to overcome two factors: local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions. Greece fell. "E. Pluribus Unum" -- From many, one. In that historical reality, if we put the emphasis on the 'Pluribus' instead of the 'Unum,' we will balkanize America as surely as Kosovo."

    "Next to last, I would place all subjects off limits; make it taboo to talk about anything against the cult of 'diversity.' I would find a word similar to 'heretic' in the 16th century - that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like 'racist' or 'xenophobe' halt discussion and debate. Having made America a bilingual/bi-cultural country, having established multiculturalism, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of 'Victimology,' I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. I would develop a mantra: that because immigration has been good for America, it must always be good. I would make every individual immigrant symmetric and ignore the cumulative impact of millions of them."

    In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow. Profound silence followed. Finally he said, "Lastly, I would censor Victor Hanson Davis's book Mexifornia. His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan to destroy America. If you feel America deserves to be destroyed, don't read that book."

    There was no applause. A chilling fear quietly rose like an ominous cloud above every attendee at the conference. Every American in that room knew that everything Lamm enumerated was proceeding methodically, quietly, darkly, yet pervasively across the United States today. Discussion is being suppressed. Over 100 languages are ripping the foundation of our educational system and national cohesiveness. Even barbaric cultures that practice female genital mutilation are growing as we celebrate 'diversity.' American jobs are vanishing into the Third World as corporations create a Third World in America. Take note of California and other states - to date, ten million illegal aliens and growing fast. It is reminiscent of George Orwell's book "1984." In that story, three slogans are engraved in the Ministry of Truth building: "War is peace," "Freedom is Slavery," and, "Ignorance is Strength."

    Governor Lamm walked back to his seat. It dawned on everyone at the conference that our nation and the future of this great democracy is deeply in trouble and worsening fast. If we don't get this immigration monster stopped within three years, it will rage like a California wildfire and destroy everything in its path, especially The American Dream.

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/lamm.asp
     
  2. Terry O'Keefe

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    wow that was a powerfull read Sid, thanks.

    I esp agree with the thoughts on multiculturalism. The melting pot made america strong, the German, Italian, Spanish, Nordic, Eastern European immigrants in the old days were expected to fit into the American culture. The first wave had a hard time, they lived in their own neighborhoods and many of the adults struggled to learn english. The next generation had learned english and started fitting into the american mainstream. They didn't have ballots and other public documents in their native language. They were in charge of maintaining their own culture, it wasn't the responsibility of the state. Now it's the responsibility of the state to help maintain the culture.

    On the cult of victimology, that's what Bill Cosby was trying to point out and he was shouted down by the black leadership. They didn't want to hear that underachievement of black young people was the fault of how they were raised, it was because of whitey. I have a number of middle class black patients, they just went out and ignored the victimology and got degrees, got jobs, their kids are expected to do well in school and not allowed to complain they got a bad grade because they are black.

    I also agree with the statement that because immigration was good for us once doesn't mean that we have to have wide open immigration policies now. Times change. We should of course allow immigration, it should be controlled and those immigrating should be those who have skills that we need and education. I made a comment one day over on NDNation about that same thing and was roundly roasted with comments of "well good thing they didn't feel that way when your family immigrated", or what part of "Give me your poor, your tired,etc" do you not agree with. I was an uncaring meanie!

    Terry
     
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    KUDO'S to Dick Lamm! :!:
     
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    One more thing, I watched a show last night on the Mughal Empire. The Mughals were a great empire in Central Asia for hundreds of years, one of their emperors built the Taj Mahal. They collapsed when they finally conquered enough territory that the empire included something like 30 ethnic groups, 3 or 4 religions ( the mughals themselves were muslim), multiple languages. They were Balkanized and collapsed under the weight of all those groups fighting the central govt, eventually the British Replaced them but they weren't ever truly defeated....they just became umanageable as a empire and collapsed.

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    BDR,

    Terry admires their culture because of their devotion to good dental hygiene!

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    I'm a very highly sought Trival Pursuit partner, currently I'm banned from several local bars! :)

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    Terry, I might be inviting you to one of my family's future gatherings at our lake cottage. I'll try to pass you off as Uncle Terry and hope that no one catches on. :D
     
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    Amazing silence on the Presidents speech last night.

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    I think he said that Michigan was looking forward to Ohio State outsourcing it's guard dogs to Mexico.

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    vicm,

    You have chosen to receive notification of replies to this topic. Your registered e-mail address, vmatous@email.msn.com, is rejecting e-mail from this forum. Please determine the reason for this rejection and repair the root cause.
     
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