The playoff debate

UConn finished 9-9 in the Big East.....a conference that otherwise sucked big time in this year's NCAA college basketball playoffs.

Does anyone truly....really believe the Huskies were a better team than Ohio State....Kansas???

Is this what you want for college football as well????

Why would a college football playoff be a sure thing....be any different in rewarding the very best team in a season with the national championship than did this year's unusual NCAA basketball tournament???

http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20110406/COLUMNISTS/110409671/1044?Title=Imagine-if-UConn-had-won-a-college-football-playoff

OK....so I am to believe that UConn is better and more deserving than Ohio State and would beat the Buckeyes 2 out of 3????

NFW

 

I wish Boise St. had beaten out the Gators for the NC game this year. I'm sure that your position would be exactly opposite.

 

You freaking idiot. Let me explain. I'll speak real slowly.

Uconn beat the team that beat Ohio State. Then they beat the team that beat the team that beat Kansas.

Does this help you to understand, or should we use visual aids?

Unbelievable.

Oh yes. What gipper said x 2.

 

Not a chance Sid that UConn.....a 9-9 finisher in the Big East.....would ever take OSU or Ks......in a 2 out of 3.

UConn was a hot team no question...at the right time.

But I don't buy they were a better team than OSU or Ks and neither did the coaches in the final poll voting.

 

In the ESPN coaches poll UConn was #1. Was this a Big Ten Coaches poll?

 

I didn't even know there was a final poll. UConn won the tournament. End of story!

 

I don't get it. Who knows what U Conn would have done against Ohio State. Ohio State didn't get far enough to find out.

Also what they may have done earlier in the season is meaningless. Basketball coaches bring their teams along aiming for peaking late and at tournament time, Calapari of Kentucky being the prime example.

And yes I think U Conn is the true champion. They won it when crunch time came.

 

Florida lost to some chumps early in the season and yet were an Erving Walker miss away against Butler from the Final Four and probably the Final ( I think they beat VCU as did Butler ).

Butler played so poorly in the Final I would have liked to have seen Donovan and the Gators give it a shot......but they screwed the pooch so to speak vs. the Bulldogs.

The basketball playoffs are full of teams on streaks and teams playing inconsistent and teams getting some bounces ( can you say Butler? ).

But still......9th place in a conference that didn't fare well as a whole in the tourney makes it hard for me to solidly accept UConn as the best team this year.

And the article I posted in the topic starter above brings up great points about what people would think if the same thing happened in football.

Many fans would be less than satisfied with the result.

 

We had an opportunity to compete for the basketball championship and we failed.....make no mistake UConn is the champ and a deserving one.

The issue for me in football is that, year in and year out, deserving teams do not have an opportunity to compete based oftentimes on things that have happened in the past and unrelated to their current year's efforts and results on the field of play.....that in my view is no way to select a champion and is patently absurd.

 

No question UConn is the champion of the NCAA tourney.

But that designation still leaves questions as to who had the best team.

I think the importance of the body of work over the course of an entire football season is hugely important to the game itself.

The regular season of college football is without peer in sports when it comes to the impact of each and every game......and each and every scheduled opponent with regard to determining the sport's final champion.

Still with the BCS Title game a lot has to be proven on the field at the end....for all the marbles......on a neutral site.......with both teams at full strength.

Those are the reasons I like the system as it is.

 

You can bitch about every playoff system if that's what turns you on.

Does anybody really think the SF Giants were the best team in baseball?

Everybody knows the rules before the season starts. To whine or question the results at the end is a sheer waste of time.

 

The rules gave us UConn as the NCAA Champion......no one questions that.

But on ESPN with 117,000 poll respondents the vote was 65% to 35% that UConn was not the best college basketball team in the country.

 

Uh...
If you want the BEST TEAM to be champion, then we have no need to play the games.

But wait... they DO actually play them.

It's about who is the best team WHEN YOU PLAY.

UConn was the best team every time they played in the tournament, until they were the last one standing.

End of story.

 

That's the nature of playoffs. You build your resume in the regular season, and then there is the playoffs. The team with the best resume frequently doesn't win the playoffs.

Best example is the Giants beating the Patriots, when they were undefeated, in the Super Bowl.

The NBA playoffs and MLB playoffs because they are 7 game series prevent many cinderella teams from making the finals ...but even then it can happen.

 

Good point.

How many believe UConn....after the ugliness displayed on Monday night......would take Ohio State in a 7 game series????

.....anyone???

 

OK, how about this;

(1) Automatic bid when you win your conference in regular season.
(2) Automatic bid when you win the conf championship
(3) Automatic bid when you make the conf championship, regardless of where your ranked.

This will give us a true pool of winners and teams that are on a roll at the end of the season.

 

Nope none of those teams would beat Ohio State in a 7 game series! The 59 Celtics wouldn't beat Ohio State in a 7 game series.

 

Hey....the point that the article is making which resonates with me is that playoff proponents like to think all problems are solved by having a playoff and all questions are answered about who is the best team.

But every system has it's flaws and so does a playoff system.....with many flaws possible in a major college football playoff as has long been discussed here.

These flaws are with regard to who the best team in the country is at the end.... the most deserving.....final NCAA Champion after all factors are considered.

No argument though that if what you want is a playoff champion then by golly you'll get one of those with any playoff format you can dream up.

 

MCG, your argument is self-defeating UNLESS you want to do away with the tournament and declare the champion to be the highest rated team at the end of the regular season.

You have proposed a clear choice here: Declare the winner of the championship tournament to be the champion, or declare the highest ranked team at the end of the season (thought by those who vote to be the best team) to be the champion with no tournament.

Which is it? If you can't answer one or the other, then your argument is nothing more than pot-stirring. What a surprise. :roll:

 

I just would like to see those whose accomplishments on the field during the season have proven themselves as deserving to have an opportunity to compete for the championship.

D1 football is the only sport to deny worthy teams such an opportunity. Period. There is nothing right about that, imho.