Where does one start? Heard interesting commentary on ESPN radio today that made complete sense. The moment that Colorado and Nebraska even started thinking about leaving, the B12 comish should have done everything in his power to keep the conference together. He didn't. BTW, just saw a blurb on the ESPN ticker that said the B12 commish announced he's resigning. The moment that Mich State or Illinois, or both, started to shop elsewhere, Delaney would have have put out a 5 alarm fire warning to address the issue with the idea of keeping conference integrity and stability first and foremost. But that wasn't the case in the B12. Now, when these isuues should be going on during the off season, they are happening dead in the pre-season, with conference play days away. Ridiculous. It's been sadly humorous to watch the 80 different alignment scenarios presented the past few weeks, The latest now is TCU, AirForce and whoever being proposed as new teams to now keep the conference in tact. Texas said that revenue issues could be worked out, but that the Longhorn Network is non-negotiable. How do you think this all started in the first place Texas? The Aggies blame Baylor? Baylor is the scared little kid that is fighting to keep out of the foster home they're being forced into. I don't blame them. They still remember their step-dad telling them back in 1995, "It's OK, we'll take care of you". Thank God for the B10. Thank God for Tom Osborne and the questions he asked at his last B12 meeting: (1) Will there be a conf in 2 years? Answer = Yes. (2) Will there be a conf in 4 years? Answer = Yes. (3) Will there be a conf in 6 years? No answer. Board of regents didn't like the non-response either. Bye. So the intent here is to now maintain the formation of a great conference. Really? Or is the B12 panic scrambling now that it seems nobody want's them now? Well who's guiding this *********** anyway? I say turn the tables boys. Put the non-negotiable deal to Texas. There once was a pretty good conference know as the B8. It could be reborn. KU+KSU+ISU+OU+OSU+A&M+BU+TT = New B8. Mizzou want's out no matter what. Texas just want's no matter what. This whole thing started because of the greed of one. Period. You start off conference realignment talks with "Non-negotiable"? Wow. You're married, but want to act single. Time for the divorce boys.
How valuable is the Longhorn network without Oklahoma, or A&M, or Nebraska? Is ESPN going to get their money's worth if Texas is playing some stranger every weekend? They would be better off, it seems to me going independent. At least then they wouldn't be playing Wyoming or whoever else hops into the conference. :?:
Yeah whatever Dude. Meanwhile Beebe is going to be replaced by the old Big 8 commish Chuck Neinas. Are you sure the move of Neb to the B10 had nothing to do with the domination of the Huskers on the field by the Longhorns and the Sooners?
Yeah I saw that about Neinas, how funny is that? No, I'm positive it had to do with the questions and answers that came out of that fatal B12 meeting. When you're not guaranteed stability, then I think they made the right move. Actually, I was content with the B12 with the exception that OU was taking away from us. But now that the foreboding has surfaced, B10 move makes more sense everyday. Despite the warnings of the officiating. You ain't gotta get mad Doc. Yes, I do think Texas is to blame for the comical scenario that exists today. I beleive their arrogance and greed was the catalyst for what we're seeing now. Just my thoughts and opinion. Guess I'm off the X-Mas card list huh?
The bottom line is this: EVERY other conference in the country divides their TV money EQUALLY. Only one is not run that way... And it's very obvious that Texas not only wants the LHN, but wants to eat into the conference's 1st and 2nd tier TV rights by airing more and more games on the LHN. First one... oh wait, now we want two. Where does that end? If it wasn't for Ok St, OU would be gone, and the XII would be no more... Damn I'm glad you guys are in our rear-view mirror. Oh, and AJ we don't blame Baylor. We just find it sad that they are using "integrity of the game" as their excuse for the empty threats.
Nah, I'm just putting you in the same group with Anthony Davis, Wes Welker, Jackie Sherrill, Barry Switzer, Big 10 refs, you know all the guys who've been so good to my teams over the years!
Let's see after the last deal, Texas, Texas A&M, and OU were getting more of the TV money than the rest of the B12....I don't remember Aggies complaining about that, I must have missed it. And let me get this straight, who owns their Tier 3 rights? Are you saying that the conferences own those rights? Did you guys share your PPV money with your conference brothers?
Now Scott, I think we should continue this after working hours. There's a chance that Terry could discover that there's an Aggie grad sitting in the chair, and he might drill in the wrong spot or something. Let's be professional and let Doc do his craft to the best of his ability. 8)
No, we were complaining way back when we suggested a Big XII network, but the Horns said NO WAY. So Kevin W left to set up one for the Big 10. Yeah, that worked out just awful for them... When your third tier rights take games away from the 1st and 2nd tier of the conference... then it affects ALL OF THE OTHER CONF MEMBERS. Or did you already forget about moving the KSU game away from Fox?
HOLY COW...I swear I didn't read this before I posted my topic. This guy uses some of the same language and thoughts I did for my post. DADDY DELOSS
Again I ask where was this "conscience" you speak of when you guys were negotiating for a bigger piece of the pie and for all the money that Col and Neb paid to leave the league? As far as the KSU and Baylor games, I don't believe either of those games were going to be picked up by the B12 Tier 1 and 2 Providers. So they were either going to PPV or not shown on the air. Why not put them on the LHN. I don't think we'd have had to share PPV money, but then you guys would know for sure about that...oh wait your AD hates PPV because he wants the fans to buy tickets to games that don't make T1 or T2.
Gentlement, during this fight, remember to protect yourselves at all times just in case your opponent decides to unload a sucker punch......... Signed Floyd from Grand Rapids,
Oh and just so you aren't surprised the Gators have a Tier3 deal with Sunshine Network and they aren't sharing their booty with you and I believe Alabama also has a Tier 3 deal.
I'll ask again because I realize this is an emotional issue and everyone is in the transmit mode? Does the disintegration of the conference diminish the value of the Longhorn Network? :?:
Longhorn Network is worth 300M!! That's what the contract says!! Plus it was never supposed to show all those teams at least not in football, and I don't think the lack of Aggies for Womens soccer opponent or volleyball opponent, etc will hurt the viewership of the target audience. That is of course assuming that it ever gets wide enough distribution that Longhorn fans can actually watch it. :roll:
Terry, so they've got their $300M and now it doesn't matter who is on? I mean if ESPN paid $300M expecting to televise Texas playing A&M, Oklahoma, Baylor, Kansas etc in all sports and now they are going to be playing who ever joins the conference next (Wyoming, WVA, Utah St. maybe I don't know) instead of A&M and Oklahoma, wouldn't that make the network less in demand? My point in this is, if all of the old rivalries leave wouldn't it be better for Texas to go independent so they would be tied to a conference schedule that has less interest in the state? :?:
Terry you don't get it. It's not about having a 3rd tier network. It's about the fact that you guys, and your big partner have no intentions of letting it stay 3rd tier. One football game, and a basketball game or two along with the rest of your minor sports programming is not a problem - none of us care about that. But then ESPN wouldn't pay $300 mil for that would they? No, the plan all along was to get more and more of the major sports as well as Texas high school football to fill in the lineup. That is a problem. LHN and ESPN had to NEGOTIATE the 2nd football game away from Fox, and that's beside the fact that only ONE game was agreed on in the first place. If you are saying both the Baylor AND KSU games are now to be shown on LHN and don't see why that's an issue I guess you never will.