Fellows, I think the feeling is probably mutual on both sides. Personally if we do expand the conference, Missouri would make the most sense to me. Syracuse or Pittsburgh do not excite me. I will believe it when I see the finished product. Don
Missouri would set off a chain reaction that could alter several conferences. I read that Louisville was also under consideration.
I've seen some Mizzou whining about how the XII is all about Texas, and that they continually get screwed in the bowl selections... It might not be a bad move for them to go to the Big Ten... I doubt they ever win the XII in football. The door would then be open for the Big XII to raid somebody else. I wonder who we'd go after?
Move Texas Tech to the B12 North and bring in Houston. But if Missouri thinks they will get a better bowl deal in the B10 they'd better get it in writing. They were somehow pissed that they got shuttled to the Texas Bowl instead of the Independence Bowl. Why I can't even imagine, I mean the Independence Bowl in Shreveport in a crappy outdoor stadium vs the Texas Bowl in Reliant Stadium smack dab in the middle of a prime recruiting area for them....it seems like they would be very happy to be in the Texas Bowl. Also Missouri has long standing rivalries with Kansan, Neb, KState, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and new ones with the old SWC schools. While they could continue to play Kansas as a non-conf opponent, they might not be able to get on the other teams schedules given the proclivity to play 1 good non-conf and 3 weak sisters for most schools. Good luck to them though, I won't care.
I don't think you can do that with OU/OKState having that "Bedlam" rivalry at the end of every season. Same thing with Texas and Texas A&M.
You guys can't be serious? We don't call Houston "Cougar High" for no reason. It's a commuter school that is lucky to get 25k fans to show up for any game as it is. We can certainly do better than that.
Personally I would not dismiss the B10 so quickly. Being independent today is not the same as it was in the 60s. It is getting very difficult to fill out a top notch schedule.
Houston is building a new stadium, which should be very nice and seat about 50K fans. I think there is a new resolve to return UH football to where it was under Bill Yeoman. If they returned to the B12 it would immediately impact their recruiting and they would become consistently better. There is also a big battle going on in the Leg over who's going to be the next Tier 1 University in Texas. Right now it's Texas and Texas A&M. UH, Tech, and UTSA are all trying to convince the Leg that they deserve the designation and the extra funds/academic prestige that goes along with it. So I think UH could raise the program to be better in every way than Baylor for sure. Other candidates? TCU I guess, but the way things are going for TCU in the Mtn West I have to wonder if they would be better off staying right where they are for football. Some have talked about Arkansas, but I would be suprised if they would leave the SEC, they seem to have settled in to the SEC quite well and I don't think they would be any more competitive if they moved to the B12. Louisville??? They seem perfectly situated athletically for the Big East, esp with regards to Basketball.
Ugh... I still don't think Houston is a good choice even with a new stadium. I voted against the proposition to create a new "fund" for other schools to reach Tier 1. I don't mind there being more, but I know any money added for them is going to come from somewhere... and you know who would be in the sights then. Unless I totally misunderstood, Tier 1 isn't a designation the Leg can give, it has to be earned by meeting a certain set of requirements. So... Tech, UH, and UTSA all want the money so they can meet those goals... (good luck!) I'd prefer it be any school but Tech. I love that they are NOT tier 1. It's more salt in their inadequacy wounds! 8)
I don't really understand the whole process. I do know that when I saw UTSA on the list I went...huh? But it turns out that their whole claim to Tier1 depends on combining the UT Health Science Center in SA (Med/Dental/Nursing/Grad Schools) with UTSA. Right now they are seperate.
Former Michigan football coach Lloyd Carr said Notre Dame would be an ideal addition to the Big Ten Conference. Carr, appearing Wednesday on WDFN 1130 to promote the Little Caesars Pizza Bowl -- he is president of the bowl's board of directors -- said adding the Irish would be a winner for all involved. On Tuesday, the Big Ten announced it is examining conference expansion to 12 teams. "I'd love to see Notre Dame join the Big Ten," Carr said. "I think certainly it would be a great thing for the Big Ten, and I think it would be great for Notre Dame."
Big 10 <t>Don,<br/> <br/> with all due respect you honestly don't think the Big 10 wants ND? Please....at the risk of sounding arrogant, you and everyone else knows that the Big 10 would jump at the chance to get ND in the conference. <br/> <br/> I like the Big 10 and it would be my 1st choice for ND IF they were to join a conference but until it is more beneficial for ND to do so they need to stay independent. They are the ONLY team left capable of doing it and it's part of what makes ND unique. <br/> <br/> Right now ND makes more money and has a better chance of getting to a BCS or other bowls every year than if they joined a conference....there will always be a conference for ND to join but not now.</t>
Let's face it, the Big 10 wants another team so that they can have 2 divisions and a lucrative conference championship game. End of story. Syr., Pitt., or Mizzou will fit the bill. We all know that they had their chance years ago and told ND "F*** yourself." What great decades we had without out them.
When the music stops I can see ND standing there without a chair. It will become increasingly difficult, if not impossible to put together a decent schedule.
If the the Big 10 filled out to 12 teams then what? I would say if the Big 10 offered it's now or never.