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She nailed it. The 2nd Amendment isn't about duck hunting; it's about the people being able to protect themselves from their own government. Anyone who lived through the last four years of the federal government attacking our most basic freedoms know that the people must have their own firearms...
Democrats Want To Crack Down On Violent Video Games In Wake Of Newtown Shooting... Why stop with video games? We need legislation to protect us from the Abominable Snowman, werewolves and rogue tooth fairies. Via Politico: As scrutiny of the Newtown, Conn., massacre continued on Capitol Hill Tuesday, Democratic lawmakers pointed fingers at another culprit in addition to the nation’s gun laws: Violent video games. Reports that school shooter Adam Lanza played such video games as “Call of Duty” and “Starcraft” led some members of Congress to call for more scrutiny of an entertainment culture they say glorifies violence, as one prominent gamer called for a national day of “ceasefire” for those who play online shooting games. “I think we need to do everything possible we can to prevent such tragedies, including addressing the culture of violence that may be spawned by video games,” Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.) told POLITICO Tuesday. From the floor of the Senate on Tuesday, Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.), meanwhile, called for a national commission on violence that looks not only at gun laws but the entertainment industry to examine the underlying reasons behind shootings such as those in Newtown. “Everything has to be on the table, including our gun laws, but a commission also needs to examine the effect the entertainment industry has on our culture,” Lieberman said. [...] Lawmakers have repeatedly sought to temper violence in media after such tragedies. Senate Commerce Committee Chairman Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.) said in a statement that “violent images have a negative impact on our children’s well-being. … While we don’t know if such images impacted the killer in Newtown, the issue of violent content is serious and must be addressed.” Even David Axelrod, President Barack Obama’s political consultant, spoke up about the matter. “houldn’t we also quit marketing murder as a game?” Axelrod tweeted on Sunday, apparently disturbed by an “ad for shoot ‘em up video game.”
List of countries by intentional homicide rate. The USA is far down the list at 4.2... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
‘Fast and Furious’ Gun Found At Site Where Mexican Beauty Queen Killed Home - by Cardigan - December 18, 2012 - 17:00 America/New_York - 13 Comments CBS DC WASHINGTON (CBSDC) – A gun found at the scene of a shootout between a Mexican drug cartel and soldiers where a beauty queen died was part of the botched “Fast and Furious” operation, CBS News reports. Authorities had said that Maria Susana Flores Gamez was likely used as a human shield and that an automatic rifle had been found near her body after the Nov. 23 shootout. Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, tells CBS News that the Justice Department did not notify Congress that a Fast and Furious firearm was found at the scene in Sinaloa. CBS News learned the Romanian AK-47-type WASR-10 rifle found near her body was purchased by Uriel Patino at an Arizona gun shop in 2010. Patino is a suspect who allegedly purchased 700 guns while under the ATF’s watch.
Oh please let the Democrats go after video games and rock music again. And if/when they do, I hope the Republicans are smart enough to stay the hell away from that issue. The newer, younger generation of Obamacrats aren't old enough to remember that Democrats attacking rock music and video games. Please let this happen.... When I try to tell people about the PMRC being every bit as much led by Democrats as it was Republicans, they don't believe me. You can show them the articles, they still don't believe it...as if those people were just tricked into it.. Let them see it for themselves..
Fellas, you all are familiar with my views.....I am a conservative, believe firmly that the Constitution is the finest political document ever conceived and a gun enthuisast as well. Grew up around them, own them, enjoy shooting them mfor sport. As a matter of fact the boy and I are going to the range this Friday where his weapon of choice will no doubt be one of the 9mm assault-style semi-automatic rifles with a large magazine that we will use to drill holes in life-size targets in the image of some towel-headed bad guy. All good....but - That said, Jim the data that you presented indicates that our rate of 4.2 is well down the list which is true if you consider comparable countries every two-bit banana republic on the planet.....I do not. Taking a look at developed countries with some semblance of societal stability and civilization, it is clear that we have a significant issue that needs to be addressed.....I don't propose to have the answer but we surely have a massive problem and with equal certainty we need to figure it out
:idea: BuckT, I never said that there was no issue. What I'm saying is that the issue is mental health...not guns. The Obamabots are jumping all over this one in an effort to grab as many guns as they can. When did that ever work? Never. Other studies have shown that nearly all of these kind of crimes happen in areas that have the tightest gun control laws. If you took weapons away from every law abiding citizen in the nation the situation wouldn't change one iota...as long as the mentally ill are allowed to roam free without help. When are we going to help those people and help ourselves too? It's the same old reverse logic from the Left: poverty is created by the rich; people are starving because others eat too much; inequality is caused by the successful; competition is bad; government control is good... We will never solve this problem until we have an adequate mental health system. The number of guns is irrelevant.
No doubt their are a number of contributing factors....and the sad state of the mental health care is certainly one of those factors. There is no one magic bullet and I believe the problem much too complex to think otherwise. Any adequate solution must address as many of those factors in combination as possible...and yes, in my view, guns as well as the video games are contributing factors in addition to a host of other elements.....the culture of violence and the convenience of firearms as the delivery vehicle of choice - with deadly consequences - that has arisen in our society has many fathers. We owe it to the future of our society to take whatever steps necessary to turn the tide and everything needs to be on the table.....in my view that does not mean a ban on weapon sales, but it also does not mean that we should continue to deny that which is obvious
A LITTLE GUN HISTORY In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. >From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated. China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million. You won't see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians disseminating this information. Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens. Take note my fellow Americans, before it's too late! The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind them of this history lesson. With guns, we are 'citizens'. Without them, we are 'subjects'. During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because they knew most Americans were ARMED! If you value your freedom, please spread this antigun-control message to all of your friends. SWITZERLAND ISSUES EVERY HOUSEHOLD A GUN! SWITZERLAND'S GOVERNMENT TRAINS EVERY ADULT THEY ISSUE A RIFLE. SWITZERLAND HAS THE LOWEST GUN RELATED CRIME RATE OF ANY CIVILIZED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!! IT'S A NO BRAINER! DON'T LET OUR GOVERNMENT WASTE MILLIONS OF OUR TAX DOLLARS IN AN EFFORT TO MAKE ALL LAW ABIDING CITIZENS AN EASY TARGET. Spread the word everywhere you can that you are a firm believer in the 2nd Amendment! It's time to speak loud before they try to silence and disarm us. You're not imagining it, history shows that governments always manipulate tragedies to attempt to disarm the people~
Tom, that is just the kind of over the top rhetoric and hyperbole and selective historical anecdotes that I just don't think helps the cause in this debate at this point in time....I'm not an anti-gun guy, but to suggest the reason the Japanese didn't invade the US,, etc is just nonsense....really and just sounds silly - at least in my view. I get all that stuff....I also get that the UK has much more restrictive gun control laws than we and have less firearm deaths annually than we had in just two tragic days - Newtown and VaTech. Similarly, when considering virtually all developed countries, our death rate by firearm is vastly in excess of them all.....if you COMBINE the firearm deaths of the entirety of the European continent, the UK, Scandinavia, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and Japan, the number of firearm deaths in the US is TEN-FOLD greater! As it relates to Switzerland, their death rate is by far the largest in Europe.... .77 per 100,000 -v- .07 for UK, .06 France, .19 Germany, .33 Netherlands, .22 Austria, .71 Italy...at least according the UN data that researched. I have no interest in taking firearms away from our citizens and denying them the opportunity to defend themselves and I will continue to be an advocate. But we need to move forward here beyond the hyperbole.... I have friends and acquaintances in the UK and elsewhere that have guns in their homes and they seem to have struck the kind of balance without the overwhelming amount of gun-related violence that we experience and it seems logical that we can learn something from their model because the one we have is simply unsustainable - in my view. The data is overwhelming.....we have a massive problem, it threatens our society, it is multi-dimensional, it needs to be addressed and everything needs to be on the table including, but not limited to, guns......
I'm sorry but the problem with our country is a morality item. We have continued the last 40 years to push free thinking with the emphasis on as far as we can from anything associated with the bible. Jesus has become a cuss word, and a joke to those who have the audacity to give reverence to his name. My reply to those who have no belief in a God is that's your choice but hear his wisdom in how we walk in this earth and love your neighbor as yourself. My former employer is militant in his views on atheism and the humor in believing in a creator. We shared a plane trip back from California a few years back and he shared the latest book he was reading where those who believe in a creator have thrown our world back 500 years. The ignorance and stupidity of anyone who believed in God and his son were the reason we have not progressed. The brief explanation is we as humans will be propelled by morality to do the proper thing or will receive punishment from the "community" of our peers and be ostracized within the established community. The books revelations were that this is what establishes civilization. In his words this is what pushes us to honesty and the greater good for those around us. My reply was if we have no accounting for our deeds but the benefit of what we aspire we "should" do whatever we can to help ourselves and the hell with everyone else. We have no accounting to anyone else but only seek the benefit of ourselves and possibly our family. Why should I be concerned with anyone else if my aspirations are fulfilled. As I push and climb my way to the position I seek in society the concerns of my fellow citizens is of no concern, they are only a road block to my goal. So as we experience incomprehensible deeds by those who have no sanctity of life and compound this with 24 hour news shows that beat the story into the ground we are "all" visibly concerned. I cried this morning as I pulled into the farm when a news story shared that a "comfort dog" in Connecticut brought out the first words of a little girl six years old involved with the shooting. Her mother had not heard her utter a word since the event until she laid next to the dog and the little girl opened up with her experience a few days ago to the dog. We have decided in society that we are rather intelligent and the idea of morality is what we choose. The only problem is we choose this randomly when it is convenient and comfortable. Or when a tragedy happens such as the recent event. All of a sudden we seek a solution to the cause of the problem and it is always the most convenient answer because we really don't want to change. So now guns in about 57% of America are a terrible thing and we must punish them. We will tax ammunition 50%, we will testify that certain guns are killers and demand they be outlawed. We will do everything but question the idea that our morality in this country is flawed because that would mean it may be me. And we all know it can't be "my" fault...
Ralph, no doubt another of the ingredients to fix that which is horribly wrong with our society.....there is no magic bullet, but I for one don't think we can be so naive and short-sighted as to take anything off the table and everything needs to be considered.....
First cabinet member for Ted: Joe Arpio For those not familiar with Joe Arpio, he is the County Sheriff of Maricopa County, Arizona. He keeps getting re-elected over and over again. These are some of the reasons why: Sheriff Joe Arpaio created the "tent city jail" to save Arizona from spending tens of millions of dollars on another expensive prison complex.Inmates sleep in tents! His response to media concerns over the hot tents in the summer: "If our military can manage in the desert, convicts can manage here." He has jail meals down to 20 cents a serving and charges the inmates for them. He banned smoking and pornographic magazines in the jails, and took away their weightlifting equipment and cut off all but "G" movies. He says: "They're in jail to pay a debt to society not to build muscles so they can assault innocent people when they leave."
:idea: The idea that video games or television shows create violence is absurd. Lee Harvey Oswald never owned a television set in his life, but he was diagnosed as mentally ill with "the potential for violently acting out" by the NYC school system when he was a student there. His mother simply moved him to another state...
Jim, I don't believe that they "create"' violence either.....I do believe very strongly that they can and do desensitize at risk youths - speaking as the father of a 13 year old boy currently beginning the sweet spot of his video game killing years - and along with a wide cocktail of other factors "contribute" to a culture of violence that I fear has put our society on a very unhealthy and potentially destructive path. And no, I have not banned such games from his inventory...... My point is a very simple one. We have a massive issue confronting us and the current path is unsustainable for a healthy and prosperous society in my view. We need to address the issue and leave no stone unturned in seeking its resolution.....
I have owned several guns and shoot occasionally. And I am a good shot with either pistol or shotgun. In my opinion we have two generations of people who are basically de-sensitized to violence. Between the news, movies, TV and yes, video games it is clear that nobody is shocked by much of anything any more. You expose nutcases like Lanza to that type of media and it is like putting a match to powder. As pro 2nd amendment as I am, I can see no use for the general public to own the type of weapon that killed those kids. Common sense trumps the constitution in this matter.