Scalia dies

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  1. IrishCorey

    IrishCorey Well-Known Member

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    and Ted Cruz starts in demanding that the sitting President not nominate anyone for the court.

    I don't care if you're Republican, or Democrat, Ted Cruz is the GD anti-Christ. I am fairly certain there is precedent on this and it's not on the side of Teddy Cruz. I would normally know this off the top of my head, but I am suffering badly from baby burnout.

    I'm no fan of Obama at all, but at the same time, I'm a bigger fan of the rules that we all (emphasis on ALL) should follow. It may suck depending on your point of view, but thems the breaks.

    The GOP, which stood in pretty good position coming into this election could jeopardize everything if they take a blanket denial approach to any candidate Obama proposes. The one thing everyone should have taken from the primaries so far is that people are tired of the status quo.

    Don't get me wrong, I too find it ironic that Obama has suddenly discovered his 'Constitutional responsibilities' after 9 years, but the truth is... it's his job. If the GOP goes into lockdown mode again, I fear they'll never hold a majority in the House and Senate again.

    If they stonewall this, they'll lose the White House for 8 more years and then it won't matter because both of the Dem candidates are not as 'reserved' as this President when it comes to accountability or blame. If it's the House or Senate, they'll make sure the American people who who is at fault.

    This is just one of those things that I see going very, very badly.
     
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    I say delay and ultimately refuse to affirm his nomination. As that bastard was so happy to say "elections have consequences." Never forget how those bastards tortured Clarence Thomas will untrue allegations. And let's not forget what they did to Robert Bork either.
     
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  5. George Krebs

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    Pretty much disagree with Corey across the board on this one. The seat on the Supreme Court is infinitely more important than who is the next President.

    Its always up to the GOP to keep up appearances? Take a look at what the Dems are offering up. A 74 year old burnt out socialist who is running as the 21st century Robin Hood and a 69 year old career political scalawag who should be indicted at any time for any multifude of felonious national security related crimes.

    And Ted Cruz is the anti- Christ ?

    The Democrats will win this election because traditional values are long forgotten and there is no shortage of people looking for free handouts, payback against law enforcement and open borders. Add a left leaning Supreme Court justice and the destruction will be complete.
     
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    I wonder if they get ESPN 3 in Ecuador???
     
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    Can they bury Scalia first before that asshole chomps at the bit to replace him?
     
  8. IrishCorey

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    Gipper,

    I'm actually with you on both accounts there.

    George,

    I've always seen Bernie as more of a Populist than a socialist, but no one knows what anything means anymore so what the hell, right?

    Ted Cruz with a GOP led Congress would set women's rights back 50 years. He's a Canadian born, half Cuban who is against immigration. One of the fun things in not liking any of the candidates in this election is really listening to all of them. I warned people about Obama after his speech at the Democratic Convention, and my wife at the time, told me I was 'f*cking joking.", except that I wasn't. That guy has 'it.' I think he's a **** President, but he did have that charisma that Billy C had, Reagan had, Kennedy had...etc

    Back on point, one of the fun things for me is to watch Mark Rubio just go bat **** crazy trying to point out to everyone that Cruz is a liar and a monster, but no one is paying attention to him. This is a wet blanket election where nothing and no one really stands out. Only Bernie is generating massive rallies that are peaceful political rallies. The rest are paying people to show up, or in the case of the Trump rallies, you actually have people getting curb stomped brown shirt style for protesting that clown. Scary times kids.

    However, I respect your right to disagree with me across the board. IMHO, the surest way to lose this election is to make this election a referendum on the direction of the Supreme Court. I agree the Supremes are more important. At the same time, if you make this about who will appoint who, that is the surest way to ensure that the women and minorities will turn out to vote. It would be a burst of wind to Hillary's sails, which should be reason enough to not endorse the idea, as the USS Sanders has all but sunk her ass. The only thing keeping her afloat is the massive list of IOUs and corporate interests of the DNC. Even the hardline longtime Hillary supporters I know are 'this' close to flipping to Sanders.

    The only time you see Hillary mentioned here is on signs begging you to remember Benghazi. There's a lot of Sanders supporters here in this state and keep in mind, this is a state that will go GOP no matter what... but you can still see his presence and the grass roots campaign work.

    You can make fun of that guy all you want, but he stands by his voting record unlike every other elected official up there and he is out working everyone.

    I have no idea who I'll vote for honestly. I've never been a populist, much less a socialist. I detest Hillary. The entire GOP line up is like a WWE based comedy reality show. It really is laughable. I really do admire your ability to watch those **** shows and actually come up with a ranking. I would suggest a slight alteration. Hand out bozos. The candidate with the most bozos is at the bottom. The candidate with the least would be at the top. This is just a terrible election.
     
  9. George Krebs

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    Women's rights?

    When do Women's responsibilities kick in? And Men's?
     
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    Back to Scalia...there are reports surfacing now that he was found with a pillow over his head.

    No autopsy either. ....hmmm
     
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    He was at a hunting camp so I am thinking he was doing anything to dull the snoring he was enduring from the whiskey aided sleep of the other hunters...

    I told my wife that I could live with dying at 79 after hunting quail for the day, there could be a lot worse deaths experienced...Hunting quail, in the woods, sharing experiences after a toddy is not the worse way to go...
     
  12. Stu Ryckman

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    Well, I am not a conspiracy theorist, and I'm sure that he died of natural causes in his bed.

    Normally if a 79 y/o is found under those circumstances (no evidence of foul play) I would absolutely agree with decision for no autopsy.

    However when a Supreme Court Justice is found deceased alone in his bed I think you absolutely have to recommend doing an autopsy. You have to try to prove that what you think happened is what happened.
     
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    The official determination is natural causes.
     
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    I have to agree with Corey, this is the most lackluster election in my lifetime. It unfortunately has been me voting for the best candidate in a field I would prefer to walk away from over the years. But this year there seems to be nothing but rejects from the 3 stooges running. I without a doubt am not voting for Hillary or the Socialist but who stands up on the conservative side that shows any promise, they are sitcom material if I've ever seen any before and I don't do sitcoms...

    At this point I may not vote for the first time in my life as withdrawing from society seems the safer bet.....
     
  15. IrishCorey

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    it's a dart board election Ralph... but still vote. Can't complain about something we let someone else decide.

    but I'm breaking out the dartboard
     
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    :idea:

    I'm in the same boat. I liked Fiorina and I've voted for her before, but she's eliminated. She actually knew what she was talking about and that didn't go over well this time around. People are too angry. This is the angriest that I've seen the American people in an election year since 1968. The president that year also had Supreme Court nominations to make, two of them, and they were both rejected by HIS OWN PARTY which controlled the senate...

    re: Bernie Sanders

    I thought he was the Uni-bomber. He once lived in a cabin out in the woods and didn't bath or communicate with anyone. He's spent the last 25 years in Congress and never submitted a single bill which became a law. It says something about the state of the Democratic Party that the guy who's winning isn't even a member of their party.

    re: Hillary

    Bernie got 83% of the youth vote in Iowa and 84% in New Hampshire. He's also received the vast majority of the women's vote in both places, including nearly all of the young women in New Hampshire. What am I missing? Hillary is going to jail.

    re: Democrats

    I used to be a Democrat and I was proud to be one. Hubert Humphrey used to say,

    "It's easy to get elected as a Democrat. All you have to do is stand up there and say, blah, blah, blah, Franklin Delano Roosevelt! Then say, blah, blah, blah, Harry S Truman! Then say, blah, blah, blah John F. Kennedy! Then get the hell out of there before they start throwing the rolls at you."

    re: Republicans

    Trump is universally despised. I don't know anyone out here who doesn't hate him and it's interesting that the leading candidates in BOTH parties are the two most hated people...

    re: Three Ring Circus

    There may be an open convention on the Republican side if nobody gets a majority. I don't think we've had one of those since 1940 produced Wendell Willkie. It could become a 4-Ring circus if Bloomberg enters the race. That would almost guarantee that NO ONE will get a majority of the Electoral College and throw the election to the House of Representatives, which is controlled overwhelmingly by the Republicans. Remember...they don't have to pick anyone who ran. They could pick Mitt Romney, George H.W. Bush, or Clint Eastwood...

    re: Bloomberg

    Could he win? You're damn right he could. If it comes down to Hillary and Trump I would vote for him. Don't laugh. He has more than four times as much money as Trump ($40 billion); he's been elected as both a Democrat and a Republican; and he has a New York power base...
     
  17. Stu Ryckman

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    It is my belief that there are some serious candidates in the Republican Party. They are getting overshadowed by the clowns and the circus which the damn party can't seem to stop. A couple of them have been forced out already...I'm not sure that any of the serious candidates have any chance in this toxic atmosphere.

    We get what we deserve...
     
  18. George Krebs

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    I side with Stu. Trump is a sideshow, a carnival barker. And now he has the temerity to threaten the GOP with leaving and running as an Independent, reneging on his oath.

    If the Republicans truly want to re-build what's left of a formerly great party, I think they should call The Donald's bluff. Tell him that maybe it would be a good idea at this point that he leave.

    It is a large calculated risk but this could bring a strong candidate out of the shadows and focus everyone on the problems and solutions and not on debate performances.

    Then we can see if the Trump has the balls to match his mouth. I think he would drop out.
     
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    I could never go with Bloomberg personally...
     
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    The Republican Party has brought this on itself. First Conservative congressional members (Tea Party) were elected by their voters and the establishment Republicans in congress ignored the message. Then Eric Cantor the House Majority leader was defeated by a Tea Party candidate and they ignored the message. They continue to do what their big donors want rather than what Republican voters want. (How else can you explain a budget that fully funds Planned Parenthood and Obamacare and "extracts" as a concession a lifting of the ban on oil exports?)
    Many Republican voters are just disgusted by leadership such as Mitch McConnell. So what candidate had the most money to start the primaries? Why the ultimate "establishment (read as money) candidate Bush. Why in a country of 300 million people do we need ANOTHER ******* Bush to be president. Read my lips, 2 was more than enough. The Republican party will never change until it's been kicked in the ass hard enough to get the message. Trump is the message.