Jonathan Taylor arrested again for domestic abuse. If the accusations are true, then this is one that Saban reached too far for. Something must have given him an indication that he had rehabbed but I'm not sure what it was. Also Geno Smith 2nd DUI. Not a good day for the Alabama football.
Don, Yeah, it has been said before but what the hell are these guys thinking? Taylor has a problem that he needs professional help for. I hope he gets that help. He's gone from the team but he really needs help.
Yeah while Nick has said a number of times when he's been called for his handling of players who have had some problems off the field, that he feels that keeping them in the program and working with them was better than just tossing them aside. I think he has a couple of examples of kids who did respond positively to this method. This one though made me wonder why he brought him right to Alabama after a incident like what caused him to be booted from Georgia. Hopefully if he is guilty as charged he'll take his punishment and some how turn it around and correct his behavior and move on in his life.
yeah Saban got some accolades for guys like Pettway that screwed up, got a second chance, came back and graduated and succeeded on the field, so he will just have to take the heat for the ones that don't work out. :?
I will say that I do believe in 2nd chances for these kids, there should be consequences to bad behavior, but just summarily dismissing them is proably not a good thing. Now I'm not talking about criminal behavior, but bad choices like getting busted for pot or caught with alcohol underage. Sort of like I once thought zero tolerance was a good thing, but now I think it's a bad thing. It leaves no room for judgement.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/12589765/nick-saban-jonathan-taylor-situation-very-sorry-way-worked-out
If you are going to give kids a second chance, sometimes you are going to be wrong. I think Taylor was a bad choice for the 2nd chance but I don't know all of the facts.
I am wondering how much longer Saban will stay. He is reaching that stage. Now where every single question posed to him is considered an affront. He never was warm and fuzzy but he is outright cantankerous now.
I don't know George, he has been an asshole from the start of time at Alabama. Wait til someone asks him about a depth chart! :lol:
I think I've said this before, but even as a young asst coach for the Oilers he was an asshole...the players called him Nick Satan.
I understand that coaches have to answer lots of stupid, naieve and repetitive questions. But some of them feel like its their duty to humiliate the reporter who asks them. Bill Parcells was that way. Bill Belichek is that way. Saban.
I actually like Saban's approach better than the one that Tyrone Willingham used at Stanford and Notre Dame. Actually while I love Lou Holtz by the end of his tenure at ND some of his schtick with the press like purposely calling Navy the University of Navy or always acting like our opponent no matter how bad was probably in the hunt for the Nat'l title wore on me quite a bit. But in today's world the press is insufferable so I give the coaches a pass.
It's got its plusses and minuses. Saban can be an asshole but when he does say something it is usually substantive. He just doesn't want to feed the press anything that dilutes his message to the team about the "process". I also think he feels like there are certain things that are not to be discussed outside of his office or the locker room. So he just shuts down all discussion of those things. 8)
Well, it sounds like this story hasn't stopped giving yet. Taylor's accuser has now recanted, and been arrested for filing a false report.
That really pisses me off, obviously I don't know any of the facts but it's a damn shame if she did make it up or embellish it. There are real victims of domestic violence out there and this type of thing hurts the cause to stop it. That DE for the Carolina Cougars who got off because his ex decided not to press charges and wouldn't even come in and testify apparently got a multi-million dollar settlement and part of that was to shut up. There is that case out in So.Cal where a HS AA RB was accused of rape by a girl in his HS, and on her testimony was convicted and sent to prision. She got some money from a victims fund out there but years later recanted and said she made it all up because she wanted/needed the money from that fund. Of course by then that kids career potential was done, he could have been a college player and maybe an NFL player...life will never be the same for him. Dorial Green Bechham got off on a assualt charge when the girl he assualted refused to testify. She commented to friends supposedly that she didn't want to be the person who ruined the Missouri football teams season. If he didn't do it shame on her and she should be prosecuted, if she is being paid or pressured to change her story then I hope that comes out as well.
Agreed, T. At this point, it appears Bama is in no-win territory. And really, how do you deal with this type of thing? You can't help but be a cynic to people's motivations in this day and age, including the accuser.