Randy Shannon

Over a year ago I posted a topic about Randy Shannon when he was the new coach at Miami. I was, and am, pretty impressed with his rising above a lot of his background to get the job he has and his no nonsense approach.

A week or so ago Tom posted a complimentary topic about him also and the players he suspended for the bowl game against California.

During the last year I have become less enamored with him and some of his approach. His whining about Florida kicking a field goal late when only a week earlier he had gone 4th and 3 against Charleston Southern when ahead by mega points.

There are other things also. I still admire much about him but think that he is headed for a bad ending if he doesn't adjust some of his ways.

Here's a scathing artile about him and the transfer of the QB who started most games this year. Make up your own mind.


Block On Marve Transfer Out Of Bounds

 

Anybody associated with Miami who whines about running up the score must be delusional and is totally without merit.

 

Interesting points brought up in the article. The writer is somewhat naive to think that without the one year rule for transfers that recruiting would ever end. It's gotten to the point that I think that sometimes the players really don't care what school that they are at as long as they run the right offense, defense and have a favorable depth chart. College coaches spend hours and hours trying to convicne kids to "commit" to their schools and put together a program. To allow kids to switch football teams as easily as changing shoes could bring chaos to college football.

 

I'm not getting into this because I think Shannon is within his rights here. I've heard those charges of tampering before... not so much with Kiffin at UT, but Fulmer's staff... I've heard that as well about LSU. I could say that I've heard the same about one of Meyer's assistants but why send the Gator nation into an uproar when nothing will be done about it anyway...

I think it is a d*ck move to use the 'Daddy is dying of cancer' bit to try and wage himself onto the rosters of a Florida school.

If memory serves, this is the kid who was committed to Alabama before leaving Saban high and dry. That means he has bailed on the last 2 coaches who believed in him. The only thing Shannon and Saban have in common is that they are both disciplinarian types... maybe the kid doesn't like rules?

I've liked some of this writer's work in the past. I just can't agree with this article. This isn't about being afraid of anyone. This isn't about kids being treated like meat.. This is about protecting your own program. Miami is no innocent victim here, but they are rightfully protecting their own. They live here in the nest of vampires known as the southeast.. if they start letting people pick off the flesh.. there wont be much left.

 

I read the article. Where's the problem? This is a kid and his father trying to work the system, and they're not getting away with it. What a shame. Miami is second on my list of most disliked programs, but the writer is full of ca-ca on this one.

 

Several years back the Gators had a QB named Brock Berlin who was a very highly ranked coming out of college. But he couldn't beat out Rex Grossman and requested a transfer. The Gators granted his request and he went to Miami. In Zook's second year as a coach we played Miami in Miami and Berling led a big comeback in the 4th quarter to beat the Gators. He was super in that game and is the reason we lost.

The Gators did not restrict him from transferring to 25 - 30 colleges which in my opinion is the correct way things should be handled.

I could care less that he can't transfer to Florida because we don't need him.

But in my mind it is chickens**t to restrict him from so many schools. Tell me the harm of him going to USF, UCF Florida Atlantic or FIU?

You guys may believe he is just fine handling things the way he is, but he is starting to have a credibility problem with the High School coaches in Florida and I don't see that as a positive.

I'll take the Gators way of doing thing, when a player transfers there are not that many restrictions put on them.

I do agree with Gippers point that transferring without having to sit out a year would cause a lot of problems and shouldn't be allowed except in exceptional circumstances.

 

I'd have to say that restricting a transfer request beyond teams that you play is more than is necessary. But it has been done before, there was a case where Dubois wouldn't release a player to play for UF, I think Phil Fulmer wouldn't give Brandon Stewart his release to play for Texas A&M.

Now understand that not giving a release merely means that the year that the kid is sitting out he can't be on scholarship, not that he can't go to that school or play from them once he's sat for a year. So if Mave wants to play at UCF, all he has to do is pay his own way for a year and then he can go on scholarship.

I think a lot of conference teams won't release you to play for another team in your conference.

At ND we won't release a player to a team who is on our schedule. ...which isn't too restrictive.

Terry

 

The number of restrictions is exactly my point Terry. I don't know if I've ever seen a transfer with as many restrictions as there still is on this kid even after removing 9 SEC teams.

I still consider it excessive. Ok, ACC, Florida and even the other two SEC teams.

But all the teams in Florida? Just how are the ones I listed earlier a threat to Miami?

I've heard what you just said about transferring even without permission, but then I saw where someone else said that if you do transfer to a school on the list you may have to sit out two years.

You know my thoughts here have nothing to do with Florida being on the no transfer list, but with the excessive nature of the restrictions.

And I would also hope that in the future the Gators continue with the policy we have had in the past and not put Miami on the list just because they put us on the banned list.

Just my opinion though.

 

I happen to agree that FIU, FAU or UCF should be able to sign the kid.

I gotta big problem with the kid transferring to anyone in the ACC (but that really doesn't seem to be a concern here).. I think it is mostly the 3 alleged 'tampering' schools...

It could well just be this kid running his mouth and rumors getting back to Shannon.... but those rumors are out there.

 

Then we don't disagree Corey. My whole point was that that many schools was way excessive. And he only backed off some of the SEC teams when word got out in the media what he did. I also think that the point the guy who wrote this report was making that as his main point.

I heard all the rumors about him going to Florida. They didn't make sense then and they don't make sense now. The only way it would make sense for him to go to Florida would be for him to change positions which I doubt he wants to do. We are set at QB for the next several years and Brantley is also a sophmore.