Heard an analyst just now with actual exit poll numbers say that Romney was rejected soundly by those that considered themselves moderate and by those that held middle class issues as very important. Combine that with what appears to be a night of losses for the Tea Party and an overwhelming majority of voters 18-29 going for Obama and it should be clear that the radical right is losing it's foothold in America. I really don't feel that it was Obama the man but rather that he presented a different choice that was distanced from hard core conservatism. A political view which obviously people do not want crammed down their throat (unless they live in Texas or the middle of nowhere.) Hopefully the GOP can come back in 4 years with a more viable platform.
It was a vote for socialism, pure and simple. Traditional American values are dead. We like to be cared for. We liked getting paid for doing nothing. We could not care less about saddling our heirs with crushing debt. We only care about our own comfort today.
!2.6% of the population is African American. This voting block again overwhelming voted for Obama solely because of his race. Political views and values had nothing to do with their vote. Of the remaining voters, 88% of the population (those that did not vote strictly because of race) the majority voted for Romney.Meaning that when the vote was based not on race but on views and values, Romney was the choice. So who wil the Dems run in 4 years Eric Holder?
No one was overwhelming rejected. Obama won by just over 1 million votes and over 100 million were cast. Its the same old story. The metropolitan areas where most of the freeloaders congregate elected the president. The rest of the country voted for Romney.
Congratulations Dave. You got the socialist government that will make it easy on you and force your child to pay for it. Hope after the next couple of years you can live with your choice. I will proclaim right now. That idiot is not and never will be my president!
So all of the 18-29 group....a group that will be 18-33 in four years......and the group that has to live the most with Obama's policies.... all of that group are inner city blacks??? :roll:
No The 18-22 yr. olds are all in college living off college loans and not paying taxes. The 23-29 yr. olds are out of college and un or under employed. They're hoping Mr. give-away will forgive their college loans. The older, more experienced, economically vested voters don't like Obama like the unemployed kids do. Quite a shock.
Dave, I don't believe it is so easy to generalize as the analyst indicated. Most Americans have leanings on both sides of the fence it just depends on what their perspective is at the moment such as sick family member, business owner etc... You are correct in my opinion that there are major differences from the highly populated urban areas to those living in smaller towns or rural landscapes. The reality of what the Democratic party provides to me is absolutely nothing. It is slanted toward assistance in government assistance that has almost no impact in a rural area where people depend on themselves and don't even think about a handout. It was mentioned we are now the United States of Chicago and honestly that is how this administration approaches its problems. But if you have nothing at all in common with urban ideology you may as well be on a different planet, it does not relate to you or have an impact other than a tax issue. The Republican party base is aging, mainly white and has been incredibly slow to accept the changing landscape in the hispanic popluation. Blacks voted for Obama the only president of that color skin and I don't believe anyone thought they would do anything other than that. The election was in trouble during the primary debates when they alienated the hispanics by running with the Tea party mantra to send all "those damn illegals" back across the border. Romney held true with that mindset and it bit him in this election. Once again I did not care for either candidate and voted on what I thought the lesser of evils. I have no excitement in this win and upon finding out the winner I have a great sense of dread for what the next four years will bring to us. I have worked with Europeans for over 30 years and feel that we are in the process of converting to a "Pro" government country with strong socialist ideas that will forever change our lives and our childrens.
Well stated post Ralph. Those numbers were exit poll numbers about our youth and middle class. I believe it was Gipper who enjoys generalizing about the shortcomings of both. http://news.msn.com/politics/analysis-in-the-end-obama-won-on-the-economy-2 "The United States is still digging out from the deepest recession in 80 years, and employers are barely adding enough jobs to keep pace with population growth. Trillions of dollars of household wealth have vanished in the housing bubble, while the gap between rich and poor widens." I have been saying this for the past 4 years and yet none here want to accept it for good reason.....because it certainly spelled defeat for whomever tried to unseat Obama. It's the reason George W was hidden during the campaign while Obama successfully forged an alliance with Bill Clinton. In the end not enough people were buying the far right's contention that W had nothing to do with it.
:cry: and here come the layoff notices... Darden Corp(Red Lobster Olive garden and several other ) all employees hours have been cut to less than 29 a week. On the stock channel this am 4 insurance CEO's are preparing to layoff at least 10% of the staffing due to the fiscal cliff to protect their assets... Jim will lose an additional 15 days of work so our income will be reduced dramatically.... that is also 15 days less the students will go to school here in Ca. *the governor didnt get his tax increase so first thing he does is punish the kids but the welfare and freebies will not be cut or his special interest lobbiest... beach front property owners etc... Jim is so upset this am as am I I dont want to live in a socialist society,,,,, if I did I would move to another country.
http://news.msn.com/politics/why-mitt-romney-lost "Mitt Romney lost the election because he couldn't separate himself from the Republican Party’s growing extremism." Absolutely.....! That fact was THE most important reason I could not consider Mitt and also the reason I would not have voted for McCain in 2008. The Democrats will be seriously challenged when and if the GOP figures this out and puts a muzzle on the Michele Bachmans in their party and it's constituents quit absorbing everything Fox News has to say 24/7..
Dave I would rather watch FOX than the bias S___ that is on the other stations maybe my values are higher and I expect more from journalist I was a jounalism major in college this is not what we were taught the first rule was to be OBJECTIVE .to report FACTS.. you tell me where ABC CBS NBC and CNN has been OBJECTIVE.or reported any facts........ you got what you wanted I just hope it doesnt cost you your job when the recession hits hard who are you going to blame then........ you will have no one to blame but yourself but of course somehow I feel you will also blame George bush for this one to
Dave forgot to give examples of extremism: Here 's one http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...s_im_so_glad_we_had_that_storm_last_week.html Is that what you meant, Dave?
This is probably an unpopular opinion but.... If the GOP stopped messing with immigration and abortion/birth control/reproductive rights and left their platform as is. No Democrat alive or dead who could beat that.. If you tossed in a more accepting stance on gay rights, you may not elect a Democrat anywhere outside of NYC, Chicago or Boston. The Latino community is incredibly conservative. Yet, they are bamboozled into thinking they are hated by the GOP. This is an incredibly odd somewhat recent development to me. It also reflects the ignorance, racist, or insecure mindset of middle America in which hispanic populations are still new. Women genuinely feel that men telling them what to do with their body is a bonafide threat and as much as they might not like Obama, they feared Romney. One of the more sad/hilarious moments on TV last night was on CNN during a group discussion. I believe it was Anderson Cooper who asked James Carville (who I have immense respect for, he could elect a black man at a Klan rally) if this now gave Obama a mandate, and Carville answered with a resounding NO. He then began to dive into the hardcore numbers that the exit polls showed. If you look at what America was afraid of and how heavily the economy weighed on the minds of voters, YET when you look at the core issues the Obama campaign ran on of bigger government etc playing a larger role and how drastically smaller those numbers were.. the answer is/was clear. The population didn't buy Romney... but it is far from an endorsement, let alone mandate for Obama. You could barely hear his answers because the fan boy panelists, led by Cooper, immediately began shouting him down with nonsense. Whether you like the man or not, there's no denying he knows politics and campaigning on a level like few ever have. When Carville talks, really talks, politics.. You STFU and listen... but no one did, and we still don't know what we're doing and why we're doing it. We have way too many people talking, and not enough people listening. That, my friends, is the problem and that is how Obama won again. The answer was out there, the GOP didn't see it.
The right is pretty far gone when journalism majors consider Fox News to be objective media. ...really?
Dave ignores the Chris Matthews hurricane link. I guess if you don't see or hear it then it never happened. And you wonder why no one takes you seriously on here?
I agree Corey...thanks for weighing in. The far right could listen to..... and so could the moderates in the GOP. The American public as a plurality does not want or accept the extreme ideolgy of the far right....whether they be Tea Partiers, religious convervatives, etc. and you know why? Fear of being told how to act and what to believe. "Women genuinely feel that men telling them what to do with their body is a bonafide threat and as much as they might not like Obama, they feared Romney. " Feared is the operative word here and it applys to many different issues when comes to moderates interacting with extremists.
Poor choice of words George to be sure. Sort of a "legitimate rape" comment but then again Matthews isn't running for office and he needs to rethink his hyperbole
Of all the candidates that vied for the Republican nomination Romney was the most "moderate." He was elected governor of Mass. as a REPBULICAN!!! That would be impossible to someone on the far right. The fact is the definition of a "moderate" to liberal ANAlists is a slightly right limberal extremist.