QUESTION PLEASE......

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  1. jif5

    jif5 Well-Known Member

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    Which college football team played the following teams this year..and got a BYE into national championship game :?: : YOUNGSTOWN STATE, AKRON, WASHINGTON, N WESTERN, KENT STATE, MICH STATE. Something very wrong here with the current system. :evil: :evil: :evil:
     
  2. Stu Ryckman

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    Probably the same team that is ranked in the upper echelon of every poll, whether human or computer...you know, the only major conference winner with only one loss.

    Probably the same team whose entire schedule, should you have listed it, was ranked #60 in the country while the average schedule of the top 10 BCS teams is ranked at a very comparable #53.

    You know the team...you love them!

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  3. GaterzFan

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    WRT the average SOS of the BCS top-10, consider those other three teams which have as many or more FBS wins as tOSU and are conference champs and the average SOS is more like 20. :)
     
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    As many or more FBS wins...and twice as many FBS losses. :p
     
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    Well, had they played tOSU's schedule, all probably would have been undefeated. :wink:

    And if you look at games against top-10 BCS and top-25 teams most of these guys had better w/l records than tOSU's .500.

    If folks are going to complain about weak schedules, school's developing such should not be rewarded for doin so. Further, schools playing the most difficult schedules and winning their conference should not be penalized for playing tougher schedules.

    After all ... the BCS+1 game should be based upon "the whole body of work".
     
  6. BuckeyeT

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    Our distressed Gater friend speaks to the entire body of work, yet only obsesses about one-half of the equation and conveniently ignores the significant on-the-field failures......fortunately, the pollsters have evidenced a more comprehensive analytical grasp.
     
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    First, I must say you are sadly pathetic for your intentional misrepresentations as you have no factual basis for such. Look back at my discussions and they include wins, losses, FBS wins and losses, tops 10 wins and losses, top-10 winning %, and SOS. Really, T why do you persist in personalizing the discussion .... well, beyond the abvious fact you lack a intelligent, reasonable, and rational basis for your position. So WTH just keep making the stupid personal comments.

    Second, it's easy and fair to argue your analysis is far more deficient in as much as it fails to consider the very important aspect of quality of competition ... SOS. I believe my previously discussions have clearly shown the teams more deserving of a spot in the BCS had more losses than did tOSU. Again, had they played tOSU's schedule, they'd have probably ended the season without a loss.

    So it goes. tOSU has a great opportunity to prove it belongs in this year's BCS+1 game. Let's all hope they can do it.

    8)
     
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    Priceless......I'll let others comment. I just can't bring myself to do it with a straight face.


    ....and they were more deserving based on what again? The process - pollsters AND computers concluded they were LESS deserving BECAUSE of the losses even GIVEN the SOS. Newsflash.....

    I'm only responding to your shallow criticism of the results of the process.
    The process takes into account SOS by the polling - subjective to a degree but for certain is a decision variable as evidenced by undefeated Hawaii's ranking - and in an empirical manner by the computers. After due consideration of a wide variety of variables - including SOS - the process - pollsters and computers - determined that we were the most deserving and let LSU leapfrog others into the championship game.....yet you continue to pound the SOS drum as if it is the only relevant variable. It's not. Get over it....
    That's rich....by definition, obviously they already have in the minds of those that matter .......as for the rest, they'll just have to get over it.
     
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    Don't take it personally, Terry. I've gotten the same treatment. I guess we just don't know the proper way to treat a SOSphobe who refuses to acknowledge the entire body of Sagarin's rating formula.
     
  10. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    The Jiffer stiring the pot!! 8)
     
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    Ahh, so are they are repeating the same mistake they made last year? Let's hope not. Let's hope the BCS process is not that fubar.

    Again, tOSU is less deserving than Oklahoma and no more deserving than VaTech.
     
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    in your opinion.
     
  13. Stu Ryckman

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    Not to mention that schedules come and go...

    Under the guise of being so objective and non-judgemental...taking such a "who-me?" attitude...

    You keep harping on the schedule of a team who played against three #2 ranked teams just last year...teams that would have been ranked #1 if we, ourselves weren't ranked #1.

    You are harping on the schedule of a team that just won 29 regular season conference games in a row in a major conference.

    You are harpng on the schedule of a team that has traveled to Texas last year...traveled to the west coast this year to play a Pac10 team that was a power when we scheduled them...a team that travels to the west coast to take on USC next year.

    When was the last time your boys traveled anywhere in the regular season? Heck, you hardly ever leave Fla. even for conference game.

    Since 1998 you have played in 8 bowl games in the south (6 of them in Florida) and 1 out west.

    I am one who understands Fla's scheduling considerations and I am not one who has criticized them for it.

    But I don't have to sit still for this SOS sh#t...maybe we had a little advantage in getting there this year...but we don't have to apologize to anybody...

    We actually had a harder time because the B10 is weaker this year and did not have a good non-conference showing. When we lost to Illinois I figured that it was all over...we got in because everybody else screwed the pooch

    Rant off...start the flames. :roll:
     
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    not to worry Sid.....it's the only thing they have to hold on to and belittle...of course, one could have offered congratulations on a great season and comments on the great accomplishment of returning to the championship game after losing 17 starters from last years squad, but that would have much too easy.... :lol:
     
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    An opinion based upon reasonable, objective analysis of substantive evidential matter ..... that some like to call the "whole body of work". I differ with the pollsters ... and for very good reason. If Tressel does his job this year and tOSU wins, then either I was wrong, Les Miles screwed the pooch, or tOSU got lucky. 8)
     
  16. jif5

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    OKKKKKKKKKKK! OVER :!: DONE :!: Topic locked!! LOLOLOL! :roll: :roll: :roll:
     
  17. Stu Ryckman

    Stu Ryckman Well-Known Member

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    Actually, Terry my original first post to Jif was going to be just "Oh Bite Me!" but I wasn't sure that you moderators would let it get through. :lol:
     
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    Too late Jifster...I got it in (for the time being) :lol: :lol: :wink: :wink:
     
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    Hey BT .... have you even considered some may think Oklahoma or VaTech is more deserving? Or does your view simply define the world as being anti-tOSU ...... if it's not pro-tOSU? :lol:
     
  20. Stu Ryckman

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    Funny, I thought that the most deserving team was the one that got the most votes and computer points...I must have misunderstood.