Polls are out.

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  1. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    Florida moved up to #5 in the AP poll....#7 in coaches.

    The Gators are in an excellent spot to win out...if they can...and play in the BCS title game.

    UF becomes an Ohio State fan on the 25th for the Buckeyes to take out Penn St.

    If the Gators were able to play on the level they played last night they will win out. However...that is a level really hard to sustain.
     
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    In all seriousness, who has Florida beaten?
     
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    That question can be asked of almost anybody in the top 10.

    LSU was defending national champ and had not lost since an OT loss to Arkansas last season and was ranked #3.

    It's all in the eye of the beholder I guess.
     
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    I suppose. They were also a twice beaten NC from last year who benefited from timing and a system as much as they did from their own achievements.

    USC beat Ohio State, but we've established your position on them.
    Texas has beaten Oklahoma.
    Alabama has beaten Georgia and Clemson, although both appear to be suspect. One more so than the other.
    Oklahoma State beat a Missouri team that appeared unstoppable.
    BYU and Penn State can have their competition question, but unlike the Gators and USC, neither of them have lost.

    But your point stands on the rest of the top 10
     
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    Corey,

    imho, it's still too early for the polls to be rational. As you go down the list of who has beaten who and who has lost to who it's clear that we are still a few weeks away from any semblance of order.....
     
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    Penn St is ahead of Florida and they do have competition questions as you say that will be answered somewhat when they go to Columbus. They haven't lost so that alone gets them a leg up on the Gators however if that's how the voters see it.

    A few others like Texas and OkSt certainly deserve to be up there ahead of the Gators but I am not saying Fla deserves to be #1 anyway...just being in the top 5-7 mix is pretty good right now and I think UF does deserve that at least as much as most teams that are up there with them.
     
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    As there remains many unanswered questions at this point in the season, I suppose one can question Penn State's competition with the same logic that calls into question the schedule of all competitors.

    The Nits have beaten 4 teams that played in bowls last year - 2 on the road and among the pelts that their opponents have earned include victories over USC and Fresno St at Fresno. Questionable competition only in the minds of those that have a vested interest and bias to do so.....I suppose the wins can be questioned - rationally or not - but for certain there are no questionable losses which it seems many - pollsters and others - thus far have conveniently overlooked......
     
  9. Terry O'Keefe

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    I think there is a lot of movement left in the polls. I don't think for a minute that my Longhorns are going to run the table. Not impossible but improbable.

    I think looking at the Alabama schedule, they only have a date with LSU between them and an undefeated season. The rest of the teams on their schedule are very beatable. I know Auburn is a rivalry game and all but Auburn is in the death throes of a meltdown I can't see them being very good the rest of the year.

    Penn State if they get past the Buckeyes in Columbus, has pretty clear sailing to an undefeated season. No disrespect to Mich State intended.

    The Gators will be heavily favored in all their remaining games. You still have to play them but Georgia is not the team that was #1, injuries on their OL have really taken a toll. FSU is not the FSU of old, and Kentucky, Vandy, SoCar all are inferior teams who should be handled easily.

    I think USC is back in the race, they are creeping up into good position and should be able to win out and put some impressive wins on the board. I don't believe CAL will beat them, nor Notre Dame.


    OU by losing early and not falling too far could still be a factor as well. There is enough pop left in their schedule for them to be in the mix at the end if they run the table.


    And don't forget that BYU is positioned very well right now if there is a finish to the season like last year and they run the table.
     
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    It's an "interesting" year.
    There will probably continue to be turnover at the top because there don't appear to be any teams with a dominating defense to complement the explosive offenses.

    One slightly "off" day for your offense, and down you go.

    This could set up well for Penn St if they are as good as they look. No champ game helps them out a LOT if they can get by Ohio St.

    I really hope either BYU or Utah make it through undefeated. They will probably have no chance at the champ game unless all the top teams have two losses. Leaving out an undefeated league champ will further reveal the crappiness of the current system.
     
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    For the record:

    And not that anyone is asking... but if I had a vote right now, my #1 would be Alabama.

    Texas scheduled a bunch of tomato cans and should be punished.. IMHO
     
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    ... but so did Alabama! They have the nerve to schedule Tennessee! :? :cry: :x
     
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    LOL and Clemson and Georgia.... :p
     
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    :lol: :lol: No disrespect to Sparty intended but given nonetheless....D'Antonio's Spartans can play some pretty decent football. Looking at the chinks in the armor of this weeks contenders, I'd say Sparty is a much more serious threat than the Beavs or the Rebs....
     
  15. Terry O'Keefe

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    No doubt MSU is a good solid team, but if PSU is undefeated at that game I would imagine a "White Out" game with the PSU fans hollowing like rabid dogs at the moon!! Might even keep JoePa awake for the whole game! :)
     
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    Fair enough.....they'd be fired up to be sure.

    I'm vastly more concerned about getting past Coach Dino's Sparty bunch this week up in E. Lansing than I am about Joe and his Nits in Columbus - only because it the next one!

    If I was Ringer and Coach D, I'd be licking my chops to get at this group of Buckeyes before they get their offensive act together.....we are quite vulnerable right now.
     
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    and still, no one is talking about Cal.

    who did Sparty lose to again?

    :p
     
  18. Terry O'Keefe

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    To be fair, when Texas scheduled Arkansas it was a different situation and you couldn't forsee that they would be what they were this year. At that time they wouldn't have been called a tomato can opponent. Plus at least the Longhorns are willing to take it on the road and go to places like El Paso to play UTEP.

    As far as Rice which is a C-USA member and FAU which is a bowl team from last year, they are no worse and maybe a cut above teams like Coastal Carolina and some of the teams that show up on SEC non-conf schedules.

    Terry
     
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    Maryland? :wink:
     
  20. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    I didn't realize the Bucks were going to East Lansing this weekend. That should be that low scoring defensive struggle that I predicted for the OU/Texas game. Spartans are just an OK passing team, but Ringer is the real deal as a RB. But as you mentioned Bucks are struggling to put points on the board right now. I do think Sparty is the 3rd best team in the B10 after PSU and OSU. So should be a very good game.

    Terry