Obamacare: The savior of the poverty stricken?

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  1. Tennessee Tom

    Tennessee Tom Well-Known Member Administrator

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    If Obamacare has come to the aide of the poor, riddle me this batman: A certain 50 year old guy living in central Georgia has lost his job due to down sizing. This means that he also lost his health insurance. Because he has unemployment insurance coverage (minimal income), he is not on welfare, about to loose his house, and is being fined by our government for not being able to supply his own health insurance.

    America: Home of the taxed and enslaved.
     
  2. gipper

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    Tom the government can't help everyone. However you will be happy to hear that they've already fast tracked 29 million dollars for the victims of that shooting in Charleston. ( I can't cut and paste links on my iPad.) I don't think the Ft. Hood victims got anything.
     
  3. Stu Ryckman

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    Tom, I don't pretend to understand all the ramifications of the so called ACA. And you know I'm not an Obama fan. But if I understand the program, your buddy should be eligible for a subsidy to cover most of the premium that he cannot afford on his own for having lost his job. There may be some crack (Tennessee?) that he is falling through...I don't know. Before the ACA he would be stuck with no option for health insurance. Maybe he is stuck now, according to your scenario.

    My very non-Republican belief (and I am a Republican) is that the biggest cause of the confusing patchwork nature of the ACA was because of pandering to insurance companies who wanted to continue feeding at the trough...and they are.

    I also believe that Republicans better come up with a viable alternative to the ACA instead of blindly villifying it...or they are going to be on the losing side.
     
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    Gip, you can cut and paste links on an iPad...just press and hold the link to select it, tap it and a "cut/copy/define" box pops up.

    Then press and hold the spot where you want to paste and a paste option should come up.

    Or something like that.

    http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/how-to-select-cut-copy-and-paste-on-the-ipad-mini.html
     
  5. Motorcity Gator

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    Absolutely agree with you Stu that people in this country who see their incomes stay stagnant while they work longer hours and their healthcare costs rise through the roof are pretty sick and tired of the GOP offering up no real viable alternatives and in doing so just choose to villify what the other side tries to do.

    Then there's a guy that maybe could be a viable candidate shooting himself in the foot with the hard working common folk by asking them to work harder while at the same time not acknowledging that they haven't had a raise since the damn Great Recession his bro helped to bring on. Jeb is about as clueless as his dad was in the famous..."how does this thingy work" video of Sr. in a grocery store line with the common folk and not knowing about a price scanner.

    I'm telling you there ain't enough votes in the top 1% if the GOP alienates the common man in this country.

    They need to get back to fire and brimstone.... anti-abortion religious righteousness or they will be toast with the common man who for some reason just cannot resist that kind of ********.
     
  6. George Krebs

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    I would be interested in your definition of "The common man ". You refer to this entity a lot. Just who is it?
     
  7. Motorcity Gator

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    George I once made $180,000.00 per year consistently for a few years but I paid an enormous amount of taxes due to AMT and the fact I was just a "common working man".... I didn't have a faux tractor and snowplow business up in Alaska to claim was losing money etc. and those kinds of write-offs and tax shelters. I was never part of the rich elite.... 180k taxed heavily won't get you there.

    Now consider that and then take into account that most of Americans were well under that level of income and you have the makings of my definition of the "common man" and certainly including everyone else forging out a hard living... working extra hours for the same pay etc.

    Something said about Jeb's comments today:

    As Andy Borowitz said earlier today, "Jeb Bush says that Americans should work longer hours, but I vastly prefer his road to success, having rich parents."
     
  8. George Krebs

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    I left the GOP in 2012. Simply disgusted with their weakness, their reckless spending and their total lack of initiative. I simply cannot align myself with that level of duplicity any longer.

    I was raised in a Midwestern Democratic household in a democratic town and state. I cast my first presidential vote for Jimmy Carter. Ronald Reagan's message turned me into a conservative.

    I deplore almost all politicians at the Federal level at this point. There is not a dimes worth of difference between either party. Theirs #1 goal is self preservation and the accumulation of personal wealth under the guise of public servants.

    If I had to pull a lever right now it would be Trump. He is the only one to date who has said what's on his mind and not backed down. I am finished with double talk. The rest of these clowns are not worth a **** with the possible exception of Carly Fiorina.
     
  9. RECcane

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    George I greatly appreciate your honesty and agree heartily that there is no major difference between either party in their pursuit to accumulate wealth....

    As to who I personally would vote for at the moment is classified as the usual of lesser of two evils...As far as double talk and forked tongue it is what I have come to expect...
     
  10. Motorcity Gator

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    Ralph and George I agree wholeheartedly with your comments.

    My first vote was Nixon and I did vote for Sr.

    I am waiting for someone to step it up and cut the ******** and offer some real possible solutions and ideas.... and I especially despise those who are the most gifted with the acid tongue and criticism of their opponents as their main platform for campaigning. I really and truly hate that stupid ****.
     
  11. JO'Co

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    :D

    My first vote was for George McGovern.