After all then crap ND took the last time looking for a new coach I find it more than amusing that no one seems to want the HC job for Mich. I guess everyone is finding out that it's just not that easy to fill you high profile college HC positions. Last year no one wanted Miami, now Mich. Maybe Bob Davie has a chance here, or Tyrone after UW let's him go. LOL....LOL! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Crazy John??? :? Did he hang out with Crazy Janey, Wild Billy, Gee Man, Hazy Davey, and Killer Joe at Greasy Lake?
In things that I have read it seems that Mich might still think they have a shot at Les Miles since his contract extension doesn't change the buyout to make it more onerous for him to leave for Mich. There are rumours that the UM AD will be meeting with Miles next week. If he does take the job wheter next week before the NC Game or right after the NC game, he'll be the biggest liar in all of sports, Nick Saban will be able to rest easy. Others that I have read about is some idea that Ron English (UM DCoord) would be given the job on an interim basis which seems really dumb to me. How is he going to recruit or build a staff with the interim label. Also there is a MAC coach, I can't think of his name who was on the UM staff a few years ago who is supposedly in the running. The guy at Cincy, Kelly, supposedly has some skelteons in his closet and isn't being considered. If Frentz was the guy I don't know what the hold up is, he is a known quanity so it would seem like they should have already pulled the trigger on him. Terry
Tne only difference in the reporting of this "coaching search" is that every turndown is not reported as an "embarassment." as it always is with Notre Dame.
Alabama took a lot of crap also, during our many searches over the last 5 or 6 years. The press would create a candidate, then slam us for being turned down. I can't believe that Miles is really still in the mix though.
I don't think Martin would take a chance on naming English before this bowl game with Florida. Now....I contend the Michigan offense has a chance to put up 30 points on the Gators but there is also a strong possibility the game goes south for Michigan because Fla puts up 45 points plus. Hiring a position coach whose defense promptly goes out and does that just won't fly with the alumni and boosters. Hard to believe that Schiano would turn this job down. Joe Pa must have told him that the PSU job is his....as soon as that son-of-gun Bobby Bowden retires!
Don't wet your pants in glee, Timmy. Michigan will find a coach and I suspect he will do a little better than winning three games next year.
I would hope <t>you aren't trying to say that your program was in the dire straights that the 'great motivator' left ours in. That would simply not be true.<br/> <br/> Anyway, don't get your striped trunks in a bunch Bodda my amigo. I understand where Tim is coming from on this. When ND took, what 12 days?, to find a head coach...it was considered to be 'proof positive' that ND was a program that no one wanted, that they'd never be the same. I do believe the Michigan search for a HC has gone on much longer and somehow the same talking heads (Saunders, Tirico, James, Patrick, etc) have failed to see a proud Michigan program getting passed over like the ugly sister, let alone make any such comparison...or over-statement regarding the future of the program.<br/> <br/> Then again, those are the same guys who have picked tonight's Heisman winner.</t>
I don't buy that at all Corey. What I remember is that most of the football world thought that Notre Dame would get Urban Meyer instead of Florida getting him. In fact Gators were in shock thinking the same thing and a lot of us were amazed that we did get Meyer. I think there were some negative things said then, but not near as many as you are saying. Also Notre Dame made a quick recovery and hired Charlie Weis who looked like a good fit the first two years, and in opinion still is a good fit. You way over dramatize the reaction when Notre Dame didn't get their first pick as a coach.
:shock: I don't agree at all, Gator Bill. Corey is exactly right. Maybe Florida fans saw it differently, because they ended up with Meyer, but Corey is exactly right. The talking heads on nearly all channels never reported Notre Dame's coaching search as a Florida vs. ND contest. That's just a Gator fantasy. Notre Dame's coaching search was reported breathlessly as a coaching job that nobody wanted and the Urban Meyer interlude was only a small part of that. Now Michigan is taking even longer in its search and it's being turned down by many more than just one coach and yet those same people aren't even hinting that it may not be a great opportunity. Its the old double standard again...
It was hardly a Gator fantasy JO'Co and I didn't say that some of the talking heads didn't talk about things and over analyze like they love to do. What I am saying is that it ended quickly with Notre Dame getting a good coach and that whatever reaction some people had was not nearly as dramatic or as traumatic as you and Corey said. I might say that was a Notre Dame fantasy.
Get back to us when he goes to BCS bowls his first 2 seasons. Hopefully for you he'll defeat all the D2 schools you schedule.
What Les Miles said was "I am the coach of LSU." He didn't say a word about how long he would remain the coach at LSU. To leave after the Championship would not technically make him a liar. ~Matt
well Bill <t>I don't really know what to tell you. There was no over dramatizing on my part. The sportswriters, yes, but not I. I stand by that 100% and I dare you to find an Irish fan who saw that any different. Here is how it broke down for us. Granted its over simplified, but I don't feel like writing 10 pages on something I know is correct.<br/> <br/> 1. ND fires Sh*ttingham.<br/> 2. ND gets called out as racist for firing black coach after 3 years, ignoring all factual basis that points towards a historic downward slide.<br/> 3. ND schemes on Meyer.<br/> 4. Media LOLs at the thought of a premier coach taking the ND job.<br/> 5. Meyer goes to Florida.<br/> 6. Media begins a daily series of LOL articles claiming ND should have held onto Willingham and that no premier coach wants that job.. Bob Davie was right, no one can win at ND with the current restrictions. Ty was jobbed because he was black. The struggles of a 'great' coach like Ty just shows how bad a job ND is at this time.<br/> 7. Media continues to go so over the top with such articles, that even Urban Meyer had to step in a few times to say ND was really in the running and that ND is a great place.. he just felt that Florida was a better fit for he and his family in the long run.<br/> 8. Media continues warpath anyway. Points to good hearted nature of Urban. Media is now counting the days that go by that ND is without a coach as 'proof' no one wants the ND job.<br/> 9. ND hires Weis.<br/> 10. Media says that ND is racist for replacing a black coach after 3 years to hire a fat, white member of the "ND Family."<br/> 11. ND has a pretty good season and returns to its old standards almost overnight. Media reminds the world that Charlie is winning with Ty's guys. Which totally ignores any and all Davie recruits still on the team, and even further ignores that Ty didn't actually recruit some of those 'star' kids. Many were already on board before Ty was signed.<br/> 12. ND has another 'good' year and goes to a BCS game again. Media reminds the world that Charlie is winning with Ty's guys.<br/> 13. ND has catastrophically bad season by their standards. Media hails this as 'proof' that Charlie sucks and ND should have held onto Ty, the molder of men, while ignoring that Ty is only hanging on by a thread at his current job in Washington. <br/> 14. Michigan's coach steps down and M is actually getting used and abused by coaches/athletic directors in the media..much like what happened to ND. the coaching search at Michigan has gone on longer than the search did at ND... yet no such articles or venom seem to be in print. Not a one.<br/> 15. You tell me that I am being over dramatic for actually being able to recall the BS that we endured waiting for Charlie.<br/> 16. It seems that the most politically correct sportswriter can cast a stone at someone for being overweight and white... meanwhile it also seems to be acceptable for writers to say that players can use racism in selecting their coaches (btw, Jay Mohr is FAR from the first person to suggest that).</t>