Mass Shootings

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  1. Motorcity Gator

    Motorcity Gator Well-Known Member

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    31 shot.... 14 dead in San Bernandino.

    Damn gun control laws are the cause of this. With more guns on the street we could have a couple of these every day.

    What fun....
     
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  3. Motorcity Gator

    Motorcity Gator Well-Known Member

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    Ralph,

    I look at this **** goin down and it's just hard to develop a who cares .... give us more guns.... damn Democrats wanna take away our guns attitude.
     
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    You may want to wait until the facts are in on this one Dave. One of the shooters was a male Muslim. The other suspected shooter is his brother, whom I would assume never made the conversion to Catholicism or Judaism. The 3rd person was a woman, name and background unreleased at this time.

    I saw this on another blog and I think it's appropriate at this time, and really nothing more until the facts are in..
     
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    Why don't we have strict gun control laws like France. Something like this would never happen there. If you're delusional you actually believe that.
     
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    15 Min. after I posted the above I see a news clip with the moron who lives in the White House saying "things like this don't happen in other countries." Now I know that people who adore him believe everything he says but didn't he just get back from Paris? Didn't he pay his respects to those killed last month?
    Maybe we need Muslim control.
     
  7. Motorcity Gator

    Motorcity Gator Well-Known Member

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    I really hope it does come to light how a 28 year old male Muslim in the United States was able to obtain the weapons used in this massacre.

    Not saying either way until we know that exact process.

    I hope it's not a case of "we didn't want to tread upon his rights as a U.S. citizen to own guns".... dumbass ********..... :roll:
     
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    Hey, I know, let's let in thousands of more from the Middle East. That's just what we need. Only a real dumb **** would think that if we can't stop drugs and illegals from crossing our borders that we can keep guns out.
     
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    OK so I've just seen a new conference with the America Hater in Chief. The only fact he could tell us was that the guns used in the shooting were purchased "legally." He didn't tell us or doesn't know who it was who purchased the guns. Perhaps I'm wrong but don't you have to know who it was who purchased the guns to know if they were purchased "legally?" For instance a convicted felon can't purchase a gun legally. All they care about is their agenda.
    Additionally although now the FBI is in charge of the investigation they don't know if it's an act of terrorism or the old ******** workplace violence claim. Remember that after the church shooting in Charleston, they were able to call it an act of terrorism almost immediately and the justice department sent almost 30 million to the families of the killed within a week. Of course maybe there was something different about he victims!
    Lastly, the shooter in San Bernadino was an environmental health specialist. I guess that somehow climate change drove him to the shootings.
     
  10. IrishCorey

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    I was listening to NPR Forum for a good hour and a half while I ran back and forth from various places today. What becomes clear, if you listen to the wording, is that they are doing everything they can to make this a disgruntled worker lashing out, when they admit in the next sentence that they've already found clear evidence that the suspect had somewhat recently become 'radicalized.'

    They use that term to white wash someone who is a Muslim and jumped to the dark side of the fence.

    They had the dude from Mother Jones on there and it was like listening to a guy caught in an affair try to talk his way around everything but the heart of the matter. Eventually, he talked in enough circles to find a way to blame the NRA. Now this is where it gets good...

    He said, "The NRA should be policing themselves. I am sure that every member of the NRA knows at least one legal gun owner who, either due to mental illness, stress or some other abnormality maybe rage, should not own a gun..

    Now... hold the **** on here... You know what this dude is talking about? THOUGHT CRIME. He's also talking about someone removing the Constitutional Right from a human being who is an American citizen based solely on assumption and perception.

    Think about that..just think about it Dave.

    If you've ever taken a creative writing class, and I took several, they have an exercise in which you turn the issue inside out and write from the opposite angle. I always dominated these to the extent that they disturbed some teachers.

    How 'bout, no blacks having guns? They seem to commit a lot of crime. I know a few black people who legally own guns. I don't think they should have them. Muslims? Automatically lose their gun rights. If you believe in Jesus and believe strongly against abortion, you don't get a gun either.

    You're probably thinking, 'hey that sounds great! Keep going!'

    So I will, because they will. It won't stop at your right to own guns. I do n't like the way the black community has raised generations of children, they should have a limit on them. Forced sterilization or forced birth control until you can pay for them.

    If you've ever been so angered you uttered "I could just kill someone!" OR even worse, if you look like you are thinking about killing someone, you're now facing an attempted murderer beef. This is the stuff of science fiction, except that the Nazis had a lot of success with this stuff. We know such things could be implemented. We've seen what happens to nations that turn to the government to handle everything because they can't, allegedly, handle themselves.

    BTW, for anyone still reading my rambling who has Amazon Prime, I'd suggest you watch the original Amazon series 'The Man In The High Castle.' Incredibly well done, but I'll warn you, that you need a stomach for evil to sit through parts of it.
     
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    Gun control laws? Workplace violence? Sorry folks. These Muslim terrorists who shot 31 people and murdered 14 of them were at a CHRISTMAS PARTY! All of the victims were Christians and Jews. These same people had given the terrorist couple a baby shower just 6 months ago...

    The terrorists had fully automatic weapons, high explosives, military body armor and had turned their home into an "IED factory" to kill as many Christians and Jews as they could...

    This all happened right down the road from here. Some of my students had to call home, because their mothers or fathers worked at this facility...
     
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    This incident is the Democratic (and to an extent Republican) nightmare. 1 domestic born, 1 foreign born, both radicalized. The evidence is ******* dripping from the scene of the crime and their home and our President will not call it terrorism.

    Unreal. Jenny knew someone in that building too Dad.
     
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    :idea: :arrow:

    Today's report from the ongoing investigation is that these two were on their way to perform ANOTHER mass shooting when they were intercepted...

    The number of people who were shot is now at 35...
     
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    How is it that the Republic of California's strict gun laws (which reflect what Obama wants nationwide) didn't prevent this???

    Could it be that those who have decided to commit murder are not deterred by laws?
    How can this be?
    The news tells me that if we do as King Obama wants we'll all be safe so this doesn't make sense...
     
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    It's all about the politics......

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    Ex-GOP Rep to DOJ in rant vs Islam-'Prosecute Me I dare you'
    Former Congressman Unleashes on Attorney General in Rant Against Islam: ‘Go Ahead and Prosecute Me. I Dare You.’

    Dec. 5, 2015 9:45am
    Kaitlyn Schallhorn

    A former U.S. congressman urged Attorney General Loretta Lynch to arrest him after she warned on Thursday that her office would take a more aggressive approach to those spewing anti-Muslim rhetoric.

    "I think Islam has a real freaking problem, alright?” Former Illinois Rep. Joe Walsh said in a video posted to his Facebook page. “There is a cancer in Islam, and if they’re not going to learn to assimilate, I don’t want them in this country.”

    “You got a problem, Loretta Lynch, with me saying that? Then throw me in jail,” Walsh, a conservative talk show host, argued. “I think Islam is evil. I think Islam has a huge problem. I think most Muslims around the world are not compatible with American values. I don’t want them here.”

    http://youtu.be/zBMhe4nrWos



    Walsh continued to slam Lynch in his video for the comments she made at Muslim Advocate’s 10th anniversary dinner one day after law enforcement officials say two people opened fire at a holiday party in San Bernardino, California, leaving 14 people dead and more than one dozen injured. According to reports, the wife pledged allegiance to the Islamic State on her Facebook page just moments before the attack.

    “When we talk about the First Amendment we [must] make it clear that actions predicated on violent talk are not American. They are not who we are, they are not what we do, and they will be prosecuted,” Lynch said at the banquet. “My message not just to the Muslim community but to all Americans is: we cannot give in to the fear that these backlashes are really based on.”

    Walsh, who now hosts his own radio program, served in Congress from 2011 to 2013.

    In text that included some stronger language accompanying his video, which has been viewed more than 110,000 times as of Saturday morning, Walsh continued to argue that “most Muslims around the world are terrorists, support terrorism and/or support Sharia Law.”

    “Any Muslim that is a terrorist or supports terrorism should be killed,” Walsh wrote. “If ‘Moderate’ Muslims don’t speak out against terrorism, they are our enemy and we should call them out and kick them out of this country.”

    “Is that ‘anti-Muslim rhetoric’ that ‘edges toward violence,’” he continued. “Go ahead and prosecute me. I dare you.”
     
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    Ralph, if I ever get back to south Florida I want to buy you a cold one...
    :!:
     
  18. Motorcity Gator

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    I'm completely for increased vigilance when it comes to the Muslim community because having lived in Detroit I did sense a fair amount of disdain or at least an indifference let's say for the non-Muslims in their world and I think sticking our heads in the sand in a politically correct way is just plain foolish.

    But certainly I disagree strongly that it is "most" that we have to be concerned about and I think it's scary that this guy can go on air and spew that kind of dangerous rhetoric.
     
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    4 types of Muslims
    1. The radical. Kills in a jihad and wants to die for Islam.
    2. The radicalizer. This bastard encourages young children to wear suicide vests and kill themselves. He indoctrinates young adults to be jihadists. This guy never walks the walk but sends others to kill in the name of his god.
    3. Muslims who when they hear of a violent terrorist attack say nothing. Secretly they yearn to someday live in a world where there are no infidels. They want the country that they live in to only have Sharia law.
    4. "Moderate" Muslims who condemn the violence of the jihadists. (BTW if you ever see or hear of any of these let me know. I'm not sure any really exist.)
     
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    It's pretty simple, can the government guarantee that the 10,000 - 100,000 Syrian refugees they plan on forcing onto the states not pull a Wild Bill Hickock on current innocent Americans. The cries of Allahu Akbar sounding out while my wife is shopping for groceries is not what I look forward to as someone with a death wish and culture designed not to assimilate decides to pull out a pipe bomb.

    We have Irish, Italians, Germans, Scottish, Jews, Russians etc who for 200 years have assimilated into what we call America. Unfortunately I don't feel the same way with the current refugees being forced upon us and God forbid you say anything contrary to the mindset of accepting refugees, you will be labeled a hate monger....

    So we can support Trump, detest him or laugh at his audacity to the status quo or fumble around with the status quo of either Democrat or Republican who bring nothing we haven't seen before except preserve what is already in place...Not much of a choice either way at the moment but I will continue laughing at those confused at what to do as they ******** their way through it, I wonder what the pollsters will tell the pundits what their next move is...