With 10 teams for now. I'm glad. I guess they have to get two more. Seems the Aggies stepped forward and ended up saving the conference. Texas Declines Pac 10
Wooo hooo...saved by the Aggies!! Actually I think it was more likely that Texas decided to stay and so the Aggies decided bird in hand ...you know. I think we need to stay a 10 team conference for now.
So Terry, you really think that if the Aggies hadn't got their back up and wanted to go to the SEC and not the Pac 10 wasn't the main reason Texas backed out? It looked that way to me. No matter, the conference lives and I think that's a good thing for college football. It might put an end to the 16 team mega conference thing.
This blows. It's just like the Aggies to pull the biggest Aggie joke of all on ourselves. The Big 12 will not survive... this just prolongs the suffering and further lines Texas' pockets at the expense of the rest. I can only hope we have as good an offer the next time. :x
It would appear to me the major expansion talk is over with for the time being. I never did see what the PAC 10 had to offer Texas! Don
Scott, I have the feeling that the SEC is set to welcome the Aggies about any time they want to move.
how long till they all realize they are there to serve Texas? until they realize that, they will stay.
Bill a couple of questions: 1. While there were reports the SEC was considering offering A&M, and reports that the SEC Commissioner was in College Station. Have those reports ever been verified, has the SEC Commissioner ever said publically that the SEC was interested in expanding and talking to A&M (or anybody)? The Pac10 commissioner aknowledged that there had been talks with the B12 teams. But I've never heard anything offical from the SEC. Could it be that in the end no offer was actually made to any B12 team? 2. I've asked this before and don't know if you ever responded. One of the big reasons Texas stayed in the B12, is that we will be allowed to form our own Lone Star Network for UT sports. I'm not sure what that will entail but it's a done deal. Now I seem to remember that after the SEC signed it's big contract that the Gators announced they would have their own sports network but I don't remember the details. Do you have your own sports network and if so what does it entail and what is it's extent? Thanks
I'm guessing that this line of thought is what prompted Nebraska to fly to what it saw as greener pastures with a known amount of $ available through its Big 10-11-12 affiliation, an amount higher than what it could foresee in a Texas-dominated Big 12-11-10.
Sid, I think you are correct in your assessment of why Nebraska opted to leave the Big Eight and move over to teh Big Ten. It's agood move for our conference and certainly did not cause any problems for the Big Eight. Somehow things generally work out if done in a meaningful way. Don
Terry, we have Sun network that show Gator football games on a delayed basis every Sunday morning during football season. It's called Breakfast With The Gators and is on from 9 - 12. Small amounts of the game are cut to fit the time frame. Also last year one of the early season games was televised live. And many other sports are shown live, some basketball, a lot of baseball and a lot of the womens sports. I don't think it's as lucrative as the Texas deal but it's pretty good.
I think with the potential for annual rivalries with Mn., Iowa and Wisconsin and occasional games with Ohio State, Penn St and Michigan that Nebraska is a great fit for the Big 10 and I think everyone concerned should be pretty excited about it. Likewise...Colorado is a pretty good add for the PAC 10 but I never saw Texas really fitting into either very well. Also, Texas would get lost in the SEC whereas by remaining in the Big 12 the Horns still rule the roost. However, for BCS schedule ratings I think TCU and one other....maybe Utah or Houston should be added to make it still an even 12 teams and then the title game should be maintained. Otherwise I think there could be some concerns about BCS schedule strength if the missing games are filled with the SMUs of the world.
Terry, I can at least partially answer your #1. Yes, the SEC commish was confirmed in College Station over the weekend. Whether or not there was an actual offer is still not nailed down. However, I find it hard to believe he flew in to check out the scenery. Our leadership caved to pressure I believe was applied by the legislature threatening A&M's PUF money. Nothing else makes sense. Anyone suggesting the XII should add a school located anywhere in Texas doesn't understand why the old SWC died, and how little value those schools add. TCU would quickly sink back to mediocrity, and UH will never climb up to that level. I hope Bill is right, and we have an invite to the SEC when this thing finally implodes.
I asked the question as to how the Leg could pressure A&M into doing something. The reply I got was just as you said, the PUF funds. I asked how they could do that and the reply was it was way down the list of shennanigans that the Texas Leg is capable of doing, but would be used.
Chip Brown posted a chronology of the whole deal over on Orangebloods.com According to him, it was the Aggies refusing to go to the Pac10 with the rest of the league that made Texas back down. Texas did not want to be cast as the reason A&M/Texas no longer play. Also says that the Aggies came out as the big winners... Also said that Colorado was the big loser Conclusion was that the B12 was a lesser football conference but stronger basketball conference now. The key to the whole deal was that Texas/Texas A&M and OU will get Neb and Colorado's share of The TV money and their buyout money. Those 3 will now make more money than the SEC contract pays Fla. The whole chronology of events
Well... he's off on one thing (as sip reporters usually are concerning A&M). The AD borrowed that money several years ago, and began paying it back shortly thereafter. I'm not sure how much remains, but it isn't close to 16 mil...