Joe Gets Tough Only thing is that if I am not one of those six guys, and have been a good egg my whole career at PSU I'm more than a little ticked that I have to clean up the stadium after games because of what those guys did.
I think its great. Kudos to Joe. This is a team, not a collection of individuals. The theory is that they will police one another.
Never under estimate Jo Pa! I think we can all learn from his consistency and doing things the right way. There are not many coaches in todays environment who would have the courage to do something like this. Don
Doing things the right way??? HA HA JoePA is a little weasel! How about when his starting QB slugs a cop? Rashard Casey??? JoePa doesn't even suspends the kid, you've got to be kidding me.
To be fair, in the end Casey was exhonerated and he sued the officer who brought the charges and the Trenton(I think) Police Dept and won a judgement against them. Terry
Terry, Same thing happens at ND....What happens? Even before a court date, he is suspended if not kicked off team. He was exonerated, but JoePa let him play before anything went to court.
PSU - AUB game (Sugar???) 5 yrs ago???...player was expelled from school and was allowed to play. Rashard Casey.....You want to know something else, quite funny how Hoboken school district athletic department (Kamara WR from there) received 250-300k after the altercation, so to me a payoff for his innocence. Honest to God true story too, my father knows a high ranking PD official who has told him the story.
In general prinicples I agree with your point, and at ND certainly he wouldn't have played. But it's not against the rules, JoePa did what he thought was right, you could argue that if it wasn't his starting QB he'd have done something different, but he didn't and it was within the rules. PSU fans would say (and have said here) that it would have been wrong to take away Casey's last year of eligibilty when he was wrongly accused. Given the way it turned out, it's hard to argue against their point.
............... <t>and when the angry gentleman stormed out of the room after the announcement, the Rutgers football team wondered who the crazy old man in the coke bottle glasses was.............<br/> <br/> <br/> But seriously, kudos to JoePa. Fire a shot right across the bow that this crap won't be tolerated.</t>
I remember the Casey affair on this forum and there were many on here who thought that Coach Paterno was off-base, but I think there are a few gentlemen in College football that will not do the easy thing in every case. Paterno talked to Casey, and listened to the accusations and did what he thought was right. He took a chance by defending his player because he believed him. It turned out he was right. No matter what the unsubstantiated rumors say, the case against Casey was dropped, his college career was salvaged because his coach stood behind him. They were both vindicated. Those are known facts, not some story told third or fourth hand and never published or vetted.
He was not right....Casey was guilty except in court. I know court is the ruling matter but as I stated before, PSU donated a lot of money to Hoboken Athletics, and as every NJ'er knows, Hudson County is the most corrupt county there is in NJ. I won't divuldge exact details that I know from a high ranking police official, he was not innocent in this matter (I'll leave race out too). The extra money to the Hoboken HS Athletics helped ease the situation. I'm sorry, JoePa is nothing but a phoney!!!! Casey case way over lets let it be......GO ND!!!!
What about letting the player that was expelled play??? JoePa is bigger than anything in Happy Valley. What about PSU Board of Admissions?? There is none at PSU, no one will deny JoePa. Notre Dame can't let in players that Charlie (or other coaches) want unless they get in academically. What about Galen Hall??? Ran Fla into the death penalty and then gets caught in a PSU coaches box??? He was in trouble with the NCAA but JoePa takes him in? Oh he was only there as a visitor??? But now the Off Cord???? Mr. Conference man that he says he is.....Mich lays a whoopin on PSU and JoePa picks FSU #1 not undefeated Mich......(Years ago forget the year, no time right now to look back)
It's been my experience that there is a large contingent of people on the east coast who for one reason or another do not like JoPa. When you've been around as long as he has, it's inevitable that you've done things that can be criticized. I prefer to look at the overall "body of work."
ndfan77 how was Casey able to successfully sue both the officer who reported him and the Hoboken PD if he was so guilty?
Didn't hurt my feelings at all, I don't really have a stake in this. As far as the truth, you've offered up unsubtantiated 3rd hand rumors. I cited verifiable facts, can you say the same? Look, I said when this happened that Coach Paterno is one of the very few college coaches that have established a reputation for sitting down a star player if that is what is called for and conversely, in this case, he decided to stand behind his player when he thought that player was innocent. The easy thing would have been to suspend the player, Paterno decided to go out on a limb for Casey. The "facts" supported that decision even if the rumors don't.