This guy is slimy and I thought that before I even read the article....He shows up on the Florida political scene almost overnight and dumps large amounts of cash in his effort for Democratic Senate seat.... I do like this comment from the article.....Great entertainment... http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/08/12/1773987/a-yacht-holds-the-secrets-sexcapades.html#storylink=omni_popular RC
Hey if he gets elected he can sail up the Potomac river and berth his yacht next to Kerry in the Democratic Senatorial, "Working man's champion marina."
Hmmmm.......are sure you are not talking about that "lets get to work" skinhead of a slimeball....the most likely next governor of Florida.....Mr. Medicare Fraud Mogul himself.......Rick Scott? I don't know much about any of these candidates but I am almost positive this GOP voting state is going to elect Scott as governor and that to me is a real scary.....sad thought. There isn't a hair on his head I trust......come to think of it.....there are no hairs on his head..... :wink:
You will get no arguement from me MCG, its a crying shame that the illusion of democracy we now live under is really a nod and wink in name only.... It has mutated into a Hydra that has seven heads and for every head you cut off two more grow.... Once again the choices for me are none....So I vote OTHER and or REVOLUTION!!!!
I believe both Scott and Greene have had their moment of glory and will lose the primary. That's what the latest polls seem to show and I am hoping it's true.
Guys like Scott get their voting base as does the GOP nationally....from those red colored areas that Ralph put up in another post. Those areas of the country I have never trusted in with regard to political judgment....going back as far as when when I grew up in this state and even though my mother's side of the family has it's roots smack dab in the middle of one of those areas.....Mayo, Fl. My early experience's being around these kinds of voters I think is why I lean left of center. I tend to think that if that exemplifies what a party's voting base is like I want nothing to do with that party. I know it is a generalization but it is one that has shaped my political thinking. To me many in that voting base don't seem to understand that it is not they who stand to lose if a tax cut is rescinded on the wealthiest 1% in America.....not unless they are standing by hoping for that $8.00 per hour job they think the wealthy guy is going to hire them for just because he feels good about things. You're not going to win any political elections of any sort with urban, white, middle-aged independent business owners as your voting base. You may win internet BB debates but that segment of the GOP population will not have the numbers that the "red" areas can provide. The bottom line is that I don't give these red areas in Florida the ability to see Rick Scott for what he truly is....a scumbag.
Dave, This is your most "elitist" post yet. So, the only people who have any sense are the urban dwellers? They are the sophisticates who the rest of us plebian commoners must do the bidding ( ie. pay ) for? You've posted some curious stuff on here but this is a true prize winner.
Dave, I have to agree with George, your post comes across as elitist as anything I have read before. I would add commentary but since I live in a "Red" area in a Florida county that has voted conservative since 1845 I already know your regard to my political judgement...Just remember the old saying about judging books by their covers... Ralph
This is true....it's not something I can defend too well. I have to say that I grew up with some ignorant rednecks in a rougher side of Jax and I still don't relate well to that kind of redneck. I didn't bump into any of these guys in college either.....in fact I am sure no one did becasue none of these idiots would have considered school to be of any importance. It is elitist to generalize but until you have spent time around these southern rural Georgia kinds of places and people maybe you don't understand it either. Living in a red area and being red are two different things Ralph. People that vote as a block no matter the candidate is what concerns me here and I know the left side has it's own share of bloc voters who I also don't relate well to personally. Therefore I am left in the middle to try and determine just who has my own best interests in mind given my own personal circumstance and that of my family. I will not accept ideas just because a voting bloc says that I should.
Since you mentioned the red area voters in your earlier response Dave it touched on something I have felt is an important issue to voting and current decision making in our government. There has been the move the last 20 years or so (more likely much longer) to really define how American thinks and behaves in according to the urban enviroment. What I mean by this is based on the fact that much of our news is centered in and around New York city first and then other cities around the US. This is the long transformation we have gone through from an agrarian society to the industrialized/technology society we are living in at the moment. My experiences to this and your response and attitude above is something I live with every day. The cultural differences between urban and rural have always been there and always will be. What is changing is the fact that attitudes similar to yours above have a cemented logic that "those people" do not have the ability to think correctly and are what is wrong with this country. Or in better words we "know better" then those hayseeds... I have always tried not to judge anyones actions without at least thinking about how it would be to walk a mile in their shoes first. My thought process has brought me to believe that I am very much in the minority compared to what is being shoved down my throat via the media and general feeling of much of America. Dave I live in a rural area where there are three red lights in the small surrounding town. We have our own well and septic tank for water, no fire hydrants, no public transportation or taxi service, no mosquito control ect,etc...Honestly I don't really care or desire these things. We still pay our share of taxes though and thats ok with me, it is a requirement of the system we live in. There is no news coverage of my area with the nearest media coverage being the Tampa area a 125 miles away. The only time we may even make a newscast is if a plane crashes in our area or some great tragedy happened. My place of employment or the farm I manage is 23 miles from the nearest gas station and even more extreme. I don't count on the police to come help us. I don't count on help from a firehouse. We live everyday with the knowledge that we must help ourselves and take care of our own. My only experience with any type of government intervention in my 46 years of living has been that I pay into it and get nothing out of it and more than likely never will. Add into this is the fact that the State and Federal government destroyed 45% of our fruit trees five years ago in an effort to control a bacteria (Citrus canker) introduced under the watchful eye of the USDA. After 18 months of tree removal and destruction they simply walked away and said it was not working and they were going to stop, even though we told them this before it happened. The results have been that we almost folded up the business and have lost a million dollars per year since their intervention and may break even this year for the first time since we "received government help". My point to all of this is if you stop and consider what the folks "over there" are experiencing it always helps to bridge the gap of understanding in why they make the decisions they do. Personally right or wrong I feel no allegiance to the federal government. I am an advocate of State's rights and even then only in a very small minimal way. 99.9% of what a politician or the media has to say or "sway" will have no impact on me with the exception of taking money away from me and my family... RC
Once again I could not agree more, but this goes contrary to what is poured out to us everyday from the media and the political establishment. We must think and use the gooey gray substance God gave us between our ears.
Ralph, The points you make illustrate the problem with all generalizations.....there are exceptions to the theory. Make no mistake I think you are an intelligent guy who doesn't fit any mold. My feelings are based in fact on personal experiences of long ago and I am sure many things have changed but in any event I do choose to remain in the middle....and not be a part of a geographical or demographical voting bloc where everybody votes the way their neighbors do just because. In college I was GDI.....no fraternities were for me. I have always been aversive to being held accountable in my thinking to a group of people who expected me to think the way they do. I am not a good candidate for a religious cult for example. The bottom line to all of this here is how else can you explain why a crook like Rick Scott will be the next governor of the great state of Florida.
MCG, that is the second time you have said Rick Scott is going to be the next governor of the state of Florida. The polls indicate different, so just what is this insight of yours that state he will win?
Bill, I saw a poll a few days ago that showed he was leaving McCollum behind amongst likely voters. We all know the GOP nominee will be the elected governor due in part to some of the things I have said above. There is a voting bloc in this state that votes one way and one way only no matter the candidate. A = B = C.
MCG, maybe you need to look at D E and F Scott is not going to be Governor Two of the three latest primary polls show McCollum leading. Three Latest Florida Gov. Polls The two latest General Election polls show Sink beating both McCollum and Scott. Close with McCollum and very one sided with Scott. Fla Gov Gen Election Poll
The St. Pete Times article I read was yesterday and the headline was Scott leading McCollum by 10 points and ahead of Sink by 30-29....as your numbers reflect. It does say that it conflicts with a statewide poll so maybe sanity will yet prevail. The key to me is that Scott does not win the GOP nomination though.
The St. Pete Poll is listed in those I linked, but it seems out of sync with the other two. My feeling is Scott will not be Governor.
While I don't know much about Rick Scott other than his HCA deal. I have been hearing a commerical on Fox against him that has me shaking my head. The essence of the commercial is that HCA committed Medicare Fraud under his watch, undeniable truth. He left with a 300M golden parachute, also true. But they then try to make a point that we the american people paid for his 300M parachute and there fore his campagn. OK HCA paid a huge, maybe record fine. I am not sure, but I believe that when you get caught for Medicare fraud you have to pay back every penny, plus the fine and most likely jail time. So it would seem that if HCA paid it's fine, then Medicare was reimbursed for the fraudulent payments and got interest to boot. Now obviously HCA can't be put in jail, and some how Scott beat the charges against him. But the American people were made whole and didn't pay his 300M golden chute. Hope he doesn't get elected Gov of Fla.
I read today that he has been showing his political ignorance lately and may not get the GOP nomination....which is the key to him not being governor because this state has been going that way for a while now..