Historical Perspective on Obama's challenges.

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  1. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    Much is being made out of the tremendous challenges that Obama is facing and no doubt he is, but the media are just gushing over him and have lost perspective. They and Obama are mightily casting him as the modern day Lincoln, earlier many wanted to cast him as the modern day Kennedy.

    But while he is facing challenges, they are not historical. Many have faced things worse. I got this off another board so it's not my own work. But I think it's a good dose of reality for Obama fans, not that they would care they are on a higher plane between now and the inauguration.
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  2. IrishCorey

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    As a person who believes in the importance of history..... all I can say is... thank God someone said it.
     
  3. George Krebs

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    I personally think it is much worse today than it was then. Interest rates were exhorbitant then but credit was available. Now they are at historic lows but banks aren't lending and that is the biggest threat of all.

    Obama has been very pretentious for a guy with no executive experience next to no big government experience. And he has surrounded himself with people who are either Clinton retreads in altogther new capaciities, people with no expertise in their designated fields or both. And he has ushered his crew into the limelight under a self created knockoff seal of the "President Elect" and self comparisons to Abe Lincoln. And the icing on the cake is an inauguration price tag that would make Caligula blush. Four years ago Bush was assailed by the left for inauguration festivities that cost in the neigborhood of $50 mil. Now in the middle of a deep recession, Obama has rubber stamped a fiesta that will cost the taxpayer $150 mil.... and counting. And not one peep from the media at all except FOX.

    Matters not. As of Tuesday, the rubber meets the road. Further attempts at blaming Bush will fall on deaf ears. Obama will have the controls and all the power. His rating is currently 76% so virtually everyone is behind him as they should be. Go get 'em!
     
  4. Terry O'Keefe

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    The media will continue to blame everything on Bush for quite awhile, I'll bet any failures or worsening of the national situation over the course of his 4 years will be blamed on Bush.
     
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    I just hope those in charge are more worried about solutions and progress than they are about who is to blame.

    Those who expend all their energy trying to assign blame rather than effect a solution are just as to blame for the problems as anyone.
     
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    Motorcity Gator Well-Known Member

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    I have never been a defender of radical left-wing liberals and I hope you don't think so.

    She seems dangerously close to that category to me if not smack dab in the middle of it.
     
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    Pelosi is a piece of work isn't she?

    It will be interesting to see how the press treats our problems. Bush had little time after the fiasco in Florida to put his team together. The dems felt, wrongly, that Florida was stolen from them They fought Bush tooth and nail before he was sworn in, the fought him on his cabinet appointments and the press started blaming him for everything.

    I won't do that and will give Our President every opportunity because it is or interest as a country that he succeeds.

    I will not make the same statement about Pelosi and Reid. I have no respect for either one of them.
     
  9. Tennessee Tom

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    Does that include the general population?
     
  10. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    The other thing is that if you look at the press, you'd think Obama won some sort of landslide historic election but he got fewer electoral votes than either of Regans wins, or Busk 41, or either of Bill Clintons wins.
     
  11. IrishCorey

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    Racist.

    Don't be ruining the Obamaday

    :D

    I am finding a bit of sad, comic irony that many of those who took great exception to the line 'you're either with us or with the terrorists' are the same ones now calling for harmony regardless of your political viewpoints... and if you dare speak out against any decision or policy put forth then you are simply making this country worse by rocking the boat at this fragile time...

    Gawd the longer I live, the funnier life is...
     
  12. Terry O'Keefe

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    I find that sad as well. I wish Obama well, I hope he does a good job and that 4 years from now we're all happy he's the President. But if he advances a socialist agenda, which he most certainly will, then it's the job of the "loyal" opposition to resist that as best they can.
     
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    I am allowing myself a couple of days off from politics and agendas and ideologies to marvel at the historical immensity of this occasion. Having been a young white person in the 50s and 60s who could not understand why people would hate other people because of their skin color and why whites would treat blacks so terribly, I am in awe that this has happened in my lifetime. It depicts all that is good about our country. I'm going to enjoy the moment before, as George says, the rubber meets the road.
     
  14. BuckeyeT

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    Well said Sid....while I may disagree vehemently with his views on the role and value of government in our society, we have taken a giant leap forward as a people.....I will celebrate tomorrow for what it is.....Wednesday however is another story!
     
  15. Gator Bill

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    What Sid and Buckeye T. said!!
     
  16. Tennessee Tom

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    I'm afraid that Israel has nothing to celebrate:
    This is only the last part of the article. Read the full article here.
     
  17. IrishCorey

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    Sid and the other baby boomers on board...

    I think that speaks well of how you all have raised your younger generations.