Other than further eroding their mass appeal and proving beyond doubt they are more hellbent on hurting Obama above all else..... including upholding a 237 year old political process...... here are some ramifications of the GOP led government shutdown: http://money.msn.com/investing/news.aspx?feed=BLOOM&date=20131017&id=17006518 Way to go assholes.
First of all, the park shutdown was Obama's idea. He wanted to make some people hurt.' Second, the folks in DC live in a bubble. For 5 years most folks in this country have been hurting. High unemployment and housing value declines have been devastating. But, not in Washington DC. So for 2 weeks these insulated fat cats had to learn was feeling economic pain was like. The media was crying about how this was a great catastrophe. Bull ****. And speaking of a 237 year political process Obamacare was rammed through with a non traditional vote in the Senate and the president who took an oath to uphold the laws of the US has done the opposite by unilaterally postponing the advent of the employer mandate.
Gipper you never cease to amaze me with that selective memory of yours. In the last 5 years..... high unemployment and housing value declines? Please elaborate. Show me some graphs from 2006 through say Sept. 2013.
Here you go: In Jan. 2009 unemployment was already at 8% in the midst of it's recession fueled steep rise ultimately up to it's recession high of 10% in Jan. 2010.... from which it has been on a steady decline since. http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000 Article on home prices: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/03/26/us-home-prices-rise-in-january-by-most-since-june-2006-as-housing-recovery/
A different take. What is shown in this debacle is that the Democrats play politics much better than the Republicans. It doesn't help that such a large portion of the media helps drown out the message that Conservatives try to rebut with, so it is a stacked deck to begin with.
Look at your graph. It shows that in Jan. of 2009 the unemployment rate was approaching 8%. My selective memory recalls that President ******** indicated he needed a stimulus bill to keep the unemployment rate below 8%. Notice how successful he was after pissing away 3/4 of a trillion dollers. On top of that Dave, the unemployment rate doesn't include those that retired earlier than planned because they couldn't find a job and those that dropped out of the work force The actual rate of unemployed/underemployed is over 14% http://www.forbes.com/sites/dandiamond/2013/07/05/why-the-real-unemployment-rate-is-higher-than-you-think/ Hey do you have a graph that shows that my house has appreciated 50% since 2007? I didn't think so.
So.... wasn't the horse already out of the barn? Does this set a dangerous... paralyzing precedent for the future when... if ever..... the GOP returns to the whitehouse and they ( the GOP ) manage to miraculously come to agreement on something and get a law passed with which the Democrats don't agree with but that the Supreme Court upholds?
Uh... Gipper.... Obama took office in the third week of Jan. 2009. The economy was already in crisis mode and melting fast.
[/quote]Obamacare is indeed “the law of the land,” as its supporters keep saying, and the Supreme Court has upheld its constitutionality.
A Civil War had to decide one of those issues and others were overturned by due process of lawmaking and voting or by the Supreme Court. Were any overturned by self-aggrandizing, selfishly ambitious politicians who were out to make a name for themselves while discrediting the President of the United States who happened to represent the opposing party? If it's a bad law it will in time be overturned with good cause and by due process. Not by this selfish asinine ******** we have seen from the GOP in recent weeks.... who by the way.... really don't have a healthcare reform plan of their own. In fact it's downright laughable to think that the GOP could ever even agree on a new healthcare plan. Last week I saw a real rarity..... a Fox News anchor absolutely skewered her GOP Congressional guest on the air about this very same thing.... about the GOP's proclivity for trying to govern by crisis creation only and by the fact they have had years to come up with something but have failed to do so or worse yet choose not to.
Poll after poll shows that the majority of Americans don't want the current health care plan. Why do the Republicans have to have one? When the law was written, the GOP had NO INPUT. They didn't even get to read the bill until the day before they had to vote on it. Perhaps if they had an opportunity to contribute to the discussion it could have been better. The partisan Dems did whatever they wanted to including a procedural "reconsiliation" ******** move. The House sent bill after bill to the Senate funding parks, NIH, etc. and that swarmy **** Reid wouldn't bring the bills up. He and Obama wanted the shutdown, and the claimed pain so that their brain dead followers would believe it was all the GOP's fault. They were right.
On unemployment: I can vouch personally on everything that unemployment numbers are a ******** statistic. Even the state employees at the employment office will tell you that there are two figures that are far more reflective of the times more so than they have ever been in their careers 1) Under employment 2) Unemployed who no longer qualify for benefits and have fallen out of the table since they no longer claim 'unemployment.' They aren't employed, they just can't claim unemployment. Things aren't getting better. They are getting progressively worse and at a much more accelerated rate. Any good baseball man can show you the fallacy of statistical data. Democrats cannot stop blaming Bush for everything. Funny, the GOP wasn't allowed to blame Clinton for anything. A lot of it has to do with people dealing in perception, rather than reality. Our media fueled society is hampered by this more so now than ever. Dave seems to think that if AHCA is bad legislation, it will just somehow get taken away. From a macro viewpoint, I'd say the passage of Social Security and Medicare are pretty big financial disasters yet they aren't going away anytime soon. Social Security has already been bailed out once back in either the 70s or early 80s. I have no idea how it is going to be bailed out again when the core of the Boomers hit that wall... and we'll be trying to fund AHCA at the same time.. It's a recipe for disaster.