So there is a term for what Ttump has been doing and it's called gaslighting. Actually I think the extreme right media has been working at perfecting gas lighting for the past 20 years or so. The Donald though has it down pat... Is very good at using the techniques. http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/10/opinions/donald-trump-is-gaslighting-america-ghitis/index.html
Are they talking about such things as "If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor." "The ACA will reduce health care premiums by $2,500" "There is not a scintilla of a scandal with the IRS" "The attack in Banghazi was in response to a YouTube video." "The (3/4 of a trillion dollar) stimulus bill will go to shovel ready jobs." and my all-time favorite "Hillary Clinton is the most qualified candidate for president ever." And for 8 years these biased left win hacks at CNN have been covering for and promoting the Liar-in-Chief.
This attitude, right here, is why such a large cross-section of the American population continue to have growing concerns with the media. The fact that checking and double-checking the NEXT president is the concern. The previous one we never had to worry that we were getting the unvarnished truth. His administration, and Hillary? Not a "scintilla of a scandal" or smidgeon of dishonesty, but Trump now... :? Perhaps it's because politicians have lied to us for so long, that the media just doesn't consider their lies as dishonest? But when a businessman does it, and scares the crap out of those in the halls of power, THEN it becomes an issue. :? I broke my own promise to myself in even responding to this drivel and inanity. I hope not to have another moment of weakness in 2017.
It's always it seems that what matters is what the "other" guy has done..... never owning up to what your guy is actually doing or saying. Obviously enough conservatives don't believe what Trump tweets or says.... that the man himself said it but didn't really mean it.... he was misunderstood by the media.... etc. etc. and on and on.. and of course he will be taking credit personally for anything that looks to be a good thing. It's becoming apparent that Trump has a mandate from the right to do whatever the hell he wants good or bad.... and if it's bad he will absolutely get away with it unchecked because the right has such a bloodlust hate of anything left of center.... or even slightly right of center. I'm glad that conservatives trust Trump's character so much as to allow that mandate to happen. I didn't realize he was so full of morals, honesty and truthfulness. And the really sad part is that even if none of these great things about Trump turn out to be true... if they are all lies and deception.... conservatives will still defend him to the hilt and stand behind him. Incredible. All hail Trump.... what a great, soulful man of integrity he must be.
Dave, I debated even responding. I even sought council on the message and effort. Despite my misgivings and knowing you won't listen and hear the message AS WRITTEN anyway, here is my response. Last one and I'm out, I promise. So subsequent to this, issue forth whatever rotten corpse hallucinations your inner compulsions drive you to, I will take no further part in your rubbish. You are so full of your blind, leftist superiority it is amazing. Most of the right of center that I know, INCLUDING THOSE ON THIS BOARD, are circumspect about what is going on, but are HOPEFUL because of the BS the LEFT has disparaged us with for (more than) the last eight years. And are relieved that the attacks on us uneducated, racist deplorables won't get tacit approval (if not support) from those in power for at least the next four years. Defending against the attacks YOU continue to throw at him, and he's NOT EVEN THE PRESIDENT YET, somehow equals the tripe you wrote? I haven't seen anyone say anything close to that in defense. Again, another stupid argument you can set up and shoot down which is nothing resembling what is actually being said. For the last eight years, you were trumpeting the virtue and holiness of the agenda, all the while ignoring the questions, much less owning up to the sanctioned attacks that were issued from Obama's administration and Clinton's State Department and campaign. All the while, we heard crickets from the media, who instead joined with the administration in attacking those that had the audacity to question their methods and intent, or against those who were calling for investigations into the administration's REPEATED questionable tactics. Every time it was disregarded as some lunatic witch hunt with no effort put into digging to see if there was any fire below the smoldering ruins. As usual, you want to throw some words out there that you somehow twist in your mind to represent what is written but have absolutely no relational basis whatsoever. You then proceed to destroy the ridiculous straw man that you created, all the while thinking you are the lone enlightened genius on this board. Contrary to that ridiculousness, the REAL thing I stated is, how very convenient for you and the media to now be the righteous guardian of truth, and how valiant is the media now for recognizing that their job is to check and double-check what comes from the administration in power. Wait, not the administration in power...the NEXT administration in power. I'm guessing we'll now have at least four years of attacks (disguised as checking and double-checking) on the NEXT administration as opposed to the previous eight where the media were in constant defense of the CURRENT administration. My God, the man hasn't even entered the White House yet, after EIGHT years of Obama. Has it even been a year since you and Obama stopped blaming every difficulty since 2000 on Bush? Well, Obama only started in 2008, but you were pretty consistent there for at least 15 years. But the NEXT president for hell's sake is the one that needs to be checked and double-checked. Question Trump all you want, you won't prove yourself some kind of unique genius in that respect. Not only will you have the full mob support of the entire Left, including the media, but you'll have plenty of company from those right of center that have questioned aspects of every politician, not just the ones on the other side of the aisle. Most on the Right want to be left alone to their own lives, allowed to think and survive for themselves, instead of being told how to think and live. It continues to amaze me that Liberals continue to attempt to label the Democrats as the party of diversity, inclusion, and understanding. Yet, anyone that holds an idea different than the party line is shouted down and an attempt made at political destruction. Limiting diversity to only an inclusion of all skin colors seems to me, however, as more racist than defining diversity as an inclusion of various beliefs, thoughts, and ideas with an open debate. Yet, nailing their feet to the racist ideals soap box is what Democrats have done since the 1800s, and a constant attack on anything that is not in line has become the standard, not the exception. Again, your newly-rediscovered questioning attitude (which was, admittedly evident during the Bush years as well) will not make you some lonesome elite. However, what it once again does is prove your lack of authenticity, reaffirm your lack of credibility, and tattoo your Liberal zombie status onto your forehead knowing that you rubber stamped the message from your heroes for the last eight years and are now, somehow, in the forefront of political circumspection. Bravo. Out.
Wow, what a post kes!!! :shock: If that was your last one for the year on the topic it was worthy!! I'll have a glass of whatever Kes had for breakfast this morning...
And that statement illustrates the problems we are having as Americans. The other side is determined to question only out of bipartisanship distrust and hate.... never out of genuine concern. Compounding the issue is that no one believes any truths anymore... incredibly even what they hear and see with their own eyes and ears. All truths need to come from the far side of wherever you stand in order to be believed.... which makes those truths pure rubbish. The far right entertainment media is where I lay the origins of the blame for this total disregard for the truth much as you would blame the "far left media" and problematically the mainstream media that most Americans used to believe.... including the right. I don't see this huge problem going away anytime soon as long as each side continues to believe it's own slanted truths and has no faith in those facts as presented by anyone else. As I posted before.... something like 35% of Louisiana Republicans actually believe that it was Obama in charge of the slow resonse to Hurricane Katrina. We're screwed....
Went up near Knoxville a couple of years ago on business and sitting at the bar in my hotel got to talking to this nice old Tennessee local a couple of stools down. I mentioned I had a different job now since I lost my old one in 2008 and he mumbled something like yeah that Obama etc etc.... I stopped him and reminded him that Obama had not a thing to do with the recession that cost me my job in 2008. He says he lost his business because of the SOB.... and I ask when did he lose his business? He says with menace that it was Jan. 2009..... that Obama SOB etc etc... I say sir Obama didn't take office until the 21st of Jan. in 2009.... But hey.... that's all this guy gets from his media sources obviously so that's what he sees as "truth"..... Needless to say I decided he had nothing else valid to say at that point.
Dave you and that "poll" of La. Republicans are getting to be a broken record. (Oh, and the % was 29...at least according to the Huffington Post who published the results so it HAD to be true.) Lest we forget lets look again at this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7XXVLKWd3Q This isn't a rural resident of Louisiana, this is a DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSMAN. This guy is not only brain dead, he was re elected after this display of stupidity. This is your flock Dave. STOP WORRYING ABOUT REPUBLICANS IN RURAL LOUISIANA AND WORRY ABOUT DEMOCRATS IN CONGRESS.
So that's what you took from "some guy" you met in a bar? Because he was mad at the world, and blamed the guy that was currently in charge you extrapolated that to his media sources? That's quite a leap, but then Dave you have never been afraid to jump to far out conclusions... How about this leap: in 2016, 35.4% of Americans were receiving a federally-funded “means-tested program” aka welfare. That's the highest EVER. And that's with the robust recovered economy your departing president gave us. Or are you STILL blaming Bush???