Florida - Missouri

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  1. Gator Bill

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    Important game for both teams. Missouri loses their outstanding QB which is a major blow to them. But at 6-0 they lead the SEC East.

    Florida is a 3 point favorite.

    I know Corey thinks the SEC East runs through Missouri but I don't think so. I see the Gators winning this Sat which would mean there would be 4 SEC East teams with one loss, Florida, Missouri, S. Carolina and Missouri. Right now before the game is played all but S. Carolina control their own destiny.

    If as I predict the Gators win then Florida and Georgia hold their destiny in their own hands. However I think at this time S. Carolina is the best in the East but they need Georgia to get another SEC loss as Georgia holds the tiebreaker with the Gamecocks.

    Florida is the only one of the four that hasn't played one of the others. We have all three left to play.
     
  2. Terry O'Keefe

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    I have the Gators in both my contests, confidence points and spread. I just don't think Missouri with a raw RS Freshman at QB can score on the Gator Defense. Now I don't expect the Gators to put up a lot of points either, but enough to win.

    I'm liking South Carolina though to win the SECE. Gators to knock off UGA but lose to So. Carolina and give them the tie breaker.
     
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    This one is too close to call for me.

    It is in the Gator's favor to face a lesser QB, but Mizzou has enough defense to make this one a tough out for the Gator O.

    Special teams and turnovers...

    I'll be listening on the radio on my way to College Station.
     
  4. Gator Bill

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    Terry, under your scenario S. Carolina would win outright with only one SEC loss, unless they lose to Missouri of course.

    Mu desire to win the East in order are Florida, S. Carolina, Missouri then if all else fails, Georgia. :)
     
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    Scott, pretty well on the money, enjoy your game this weekend.
     
  6. IrishCorey

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    My opinion is right along Scott's. If Missou can keep Florida's special teams from breaking this open, the game will stay tight. If Missou can keep the Florida defense from creating turnovers, this game will stay tight.

    I see Florida's defense as a major advantage in this game and if Florida wins, it will be due to their defense. At the same time, I'm curious to see if Missouri can put heat on the Florida offense (the other wildcard in the game). If Florida can't move the ball and/or coughs it up, I like Missouri here.

    The biggest thing, in my opinion, is that Missouri can't turn it over. Still, this game is in CoMo and not the Swamp. It's not so much that I believe Missouri is any shoe in to win. It's just that no one seems to be considering the landscape of this game if Missouri wins. A lot of people seem to be looking right past Missouri. That's a hell of a thing at this point.
     
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    Don't think either team scores 20 in this one.

    Damn I hate our offense.
     
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    I think Dave has a good number there. If Missouri scores 20+ points, I think Florida will be in trouble. (barring a rash of turnovers from Missou)
     
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    Gators 151 yards of offense and Missouri 501 yards of offense.

    I really am having trouble comprehending what has happened to my Gators. Our OL seems like they would have trouble blocking a good High School team.

    Muschamp is taking a lot of heat right now.
     
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    Bill, it looks like Missouri is for real.
     
  11. Terry O'Keefe

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    A lot of people thought Maty Mauk would be Irish because his brother played for Kelly at UC. But nothing really ever developed...kid looked great vs the Gators. He was legendary in Ohio HS. We sure could use him now.

    I'm sure most of you are thinking like me, that you never expected Missouri to ever do well in SEC Football. That you would expect them to compete with Vanderbilt for worst in the East, doubtful they'd ever be as good even as Kentucky.

    This is shocking that they are this good.
     
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    I'm not shocked. Pinkel is an excellent coach who has built a solid foundation of consistently strong teams. Last year was an aberration which just happened to occur in the school's first year in the SEC, leading folks who don't follow Mizzoo's year-to-year performance to write them off as a future contender. As the song goes, How you like me now?
     
  13. Motorcity Gator

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    So many injuries... Chaz Green on the OL early in the season I think was pretty big.

    Turns out that maybe Jeff Driskell was indeed our best option at Qb....and Tyler Murphy is no Maty Mauk.

    Losing Dominique Easly and having Powell out yesterday as well has made the Gator run defense vulnerable.

    That said.... I haven't been as frustrated watching the Gators since... well.... since Ron Zook.

    The Gator offensive coaching has been atrocious..... and certainly compounded by the injuries but still..... isn't it obvious that Kelvin Taylor and Solomon Patten should be the go to guys?

    I knew that Taylor was the key to our offense yesterday before the game..... but it took Pease until the third quarter to figure that out and then after he scored Taylor was not even involved the next three and out series.

    That three and out series says a lot about Pease and Muschamp.... and why they might be short time in Gainesville.
     
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    So many excuses...and not one person actually listened to a thing I said.

    I didn't know that last year Missou was missing their OL, half the DL, their leading rusher and their QB.. No one made any excuses for them. I was one of those people too.

    I watched them whip Georgia's ass right up front on both sides of the line. I tried to warn you guys that was the single most bothersome thing to me about that game. You can cite all the injured skill people Georgia had.. that passes off as football knowledge to the Gary Danielson's of the world, but it means a hill of ****. It's all about what's going on in the trenches.

    And in that regard, where Georgia didn't have a single injury, Missouri out-classed them and it wasn't close.

    But you wanted to talk about the lack of a Missouri starting QB.. you're looking at this through a media guide instead of with your own eyes. Missouri beat Florida where it counted, at both lines of scrimmage. This game was not as close as the score would indicate. Florida had one real drive of substance the entire game. The rest of the scoring was a kick return for a TD (I continue to marvel at Florida's ability to do this) and a score set up by a pick.

    Florida's MLB (Morrisey?) should have been ejected for targeting twice, once on a late hit that wasn't called. I thought the kid who was ejected for targeting deserved a penalty, but not an ejection. People need to teach these kids to tackle correctly.

    I said it last week, and I'll say it again this week, the road to the SEC East runs through CoMo..

    I was as shocked as any of you.. but what I saw between the hedges last week is what I saw on the field in CoMo yesterday.. the real best team in the SEC East.
     
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    I agree with everything you said Corey.... everything.... but the excuses part.

    No Gator fan at this point is making excuses for the Gators. We're a combination of disappointed and disgusted.

    We understand that 7 starters were out yesterday plus losing Riggs unfairly on the first play of the game hurt UF as well..... but Missouri is a legit team and deserves to go to Atlanta if they can beat SC.
     
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    You do realize that you just said no Gator fan is making excuses, but then turned around and made excuses...right?

    Unless, of course, you're telling me you've jumped ship on the Gators.
     
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    Injuries have happened to several teams in the SEC this year and it has changed some seasons.... such as Georgia for a prime example.

    Florida was a better team when healthier... better for sure..... but not great.... witness the Miami loss ( and in consideration of where I think the program is currently under Muschamp.... which is nowhere.)
     
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    Basic tenet of football: Great lines will make the rest of your team very good.
    Bad lines... and you are in deep trouble.

    Mizzou was very beat up on the lines last year, and healthy now.
    Look out.

    The Aggie defensive front seven lost a few players, and is now either too young, or not good enough to compete.
    We can't stop an old woman with a walker, much less an opposing offense.
     
  19. Motorcity Gator

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    Absolutely agree with that.

    You don't lose two potential NFL first rounders on the DL ( Easly and Powell ) and half of your OL and remain viable in the SEC....

    UF's back-ups are not very good on OL and maybe the starters were not all that good either.....

    Throw in the out for the season starting QB and RB plus a lack of SEC caliber receivers ( except for Patten ) and you have a recipe for a team on the brink of missing out on a lousy bowl game.

    The SEC is proving as always to be a brutally physical league...it takes it's toll during the season when the big boys all bang around with each other.

    I think that was half the problem with LSU last night..... and directly with UF yesterday as UF was missing two players from the DL injured in the LSU game the week before.

    Call it a hangover or whatever you want but week to week in the SEC is tough and physical.... and Bama is fortunate so far they haven't played the most demanding SEC schedule and have avoided the plethora of injuries others have encountered.
     
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    Kes... Hey Kes.. Look, I didn't even have to bring it up..

    Damn it, this is just too funny. The only team to ever win a game of football in the past 20 years in the Florida Gators. Everyone and everything else is the product of some excuse...

    and the hangover... Jesus Christ.. You realize I was almost... ALMOST feeling bad about poking fun of your 'hangover' line 3 weeks later. I didn't even have to bring it up this week, this is fantastic.

    If you got a hangover for 3 to 4 weeks, maybe you should stop f*cking drinking... so either join the ACC, or shut up and play the schedule you benefit greatly from..