Five Stars?

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  1. Motorcity Gator

    Motorcity Gator Well-Known Member

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    CFN reviews the 5 star class of 2004:

    http://cfn.scout.com/2/726341.html
     
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    Very interesting article. It was good to see how these guys performed.
     
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    That was interesting. There is a significant number of five stars that didn't pan out.
     
  4. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    Some didn't pan out that's for sure, but if I had my druthers I'd still rather have a bunch of 5* players. There were also some mega stars in that group.

    Terry
     
  5. Motorcity Gator

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    I agree that for every Willie Williams there is an Adrian Peterson.

    I'll take 5 stars any day as long as they aren't miscreants from the Miami hood.
     
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    Terry and MCG, I believe it has pretty well proven out that in the long run the higher star players have a higher rate of success. Not completely as can be seen from that list, but over all yes.
     
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    I hope you are right! :wink:
     
  8. BuckeyeT

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    I think that would be interesting to see Bill.....clearly, any individual year can be off by miles with a meaningful standard deviation. In this sample for instance, the kids have a less than 1 chance in 3 of meeting their expectations and indeed are more likely to perform at a level of 3* or below than 4* and above. As a result, I give little credence to these services.....if Coach Tressel tells me that can contribute, I'll believe him vastly more than any of these recruting wonks.
     
  9. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    I'm sure that Charlie Weis will be glad to take all the Ohio 5*'s so they won't fall in the Stripehead hands!! That way JT can focus on what he does best develope 3* kids into AA's!! :)
     
  10. Gator Bill

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    I have read somewhere about the relationship of higher ranking to performance but don't have a link.

    However I agree completely with your statement about trusting the coach to make the final judgement.

    Case in point is our kick returner Brandan James was a 2 ** and he has made major contributions to our team.

    So I'm with you but still believe if you have an overall higher star ranking you have a better chance of them producing.
     
  11. BuckeyeT

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    I'm not sure ALL the 5* would be the right transaction.....however, I would let him swap any of our 5*'s of JT's choosing for any of ND 4* or lower rated players again of JT s choosing.... and similarly, I would swap any of our 4*'s of JT's choosing for any of ND's 3* or lower again of JT's choosing....the bet here is obviously that JT's or any decent coach's evaluation of talent is vastly superior to the recruiting wonks....
     
  12. BuckeyeT

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    Therein lies the point to be made....JT knew they were future AA's all along - it was the recruiting rags who missed the call and tagged them as 3*'s! Interesting enough, the average result of the designated 5*'s in the 04 class was a 3* playing career!

    To Bill's point, I have no doubt that a program that consistently produces highly rated classes over time will have superior playing talent on the field when compared to a program that has not produced consistently highly rated classes - that said, as the linked analysis evidences, judging any given class in any given year by the number of *'s given it by the rags is little better than a crap shoot and may bear no resemblance to a quality squad on the field.