So OSU, MSU, and Wisc. all ended up tied for the conference championship. Because of the schedule there is no way to compare head to head competition because the Bucks and Spartans didn't play this season. However, in the head to head competitions the teams had the following records 1-0 1-1 0-1 So which team goes to the Rose Bowl? The 1-1 team. Which team has the best shot of another BCS game? the 0-1 team. Which team goes dumster diving for a bowl? the 1-0 Spartans. 11-1 league tri champ Spartans, left at the curb.
Hey at least now they get to go to a bowl, for decades they'd all stay home except for the one "voted" the champ by the AD's.
I'd give it to the Spartans. Only because starting next year they're in NE's division and will be denied access to quite a few BCS Bowls. OH, BTW, THANKS FOR STOPPIN' BY AND DROPPING OFF THE TROPHY BEEBE
Yeah...Wiscy and OSU didn't lose to any other teams...how convenient to leave that out. Whatever...it is what it is...sorry if I don't feel angst.
This is a tough one. MSU doesn't get as much credit it seems for beating the conference's highest ranked team as it get's penalized for losing on the road to Iowa. I think voter perception is the stigma working against the Spartys right now but the computer rankings seem to agree as well.
One very good reason for that is that we beat them all......tho it is unfortunate for both that we didn't get to play Sparty this year. All the more reason for a playoff.....one needn't focus on what did not happen and then speculate on the results if it had and further then discounting ones standing assuming a negative outcome of the "make believe" event .....it would seem to be somewhat more reasonable to observe what did in fact happen and then make rational judgements on that basis......I could be wrong, but I don't think so.
Just out of curiosity, just what was the toughest opponent OSU beat this year. I suspect if one looks at power ratings it's some 5 loss team that beat MSU.
I suspect you're correct.....which is to suggest what? That we are incapable of beating anybody with less than 5 losses and our actual results should therefore be discounted? Nonsense..... Sparty beat Wisky at home, we lost to Wisky on the road.....we both played Iowa on the road - we won, Sparty got sh!thammered 37-6 and it wasn't that close.....
The point is Sparty was able to beat a ranked team. OSU cruised through a sechedule of bad to mediocre teams and flopped against the only though team it played. How pathetic that you justify being ranked above MSU because you were able to beat a 5 loss team.
Pathetic my ass...Who pissed in your wheaties this morning? Seriously? What a crock. The basis of my justification was the performance of both against common opponents......we played 7 common opponents - we were both 6 and 1. Our loss was on the road against Wisky 31-18, Sparty was on the road against Iowa 37-6. Our average score against all common opponents was 34-13. Sparty was 28-21. I believe our complete body of work is superior to theirs.....period. Disagree if you like but don't be ridiculous about it.....jeezus.
I'd have to say that Wisc/OSU/MSU is the correct order. I have to wonder what MSU season would have been like if that fake FG had not worked for Dantonio. But of course it did. But he was given tons of credit for having brass balls to make that call, if it fails...would he have still had brass balls?
Ohio State beat Iowa by two more points than did Wisky.....which doesn't mean a whole lot. Iowa did get MSU's number but I have to agree that OSU has not seen many high caliber teams this season and did lose decidely to the only one they played. Not the kids fault.....just a quirk in the scheduling that they didn't play MSU and that Miami turned out be a coach-firing lousy non-con opponent. But it was apparent to me before the season that this is where OSU was headed because of their schedule. I think Arkansas will give the Buckeyes all they can handle in the Sugar Bowl..
Hey three ways are always awkward. B12 South all are 6-2, you could start going around seeing who beat who, who played the toughest schedule, etc. But in the end it was a 3 way tie and it has to be broken someway, so you have the rules what ever they are everybody agreed to them before the season started. I doubt if you hear any complaining from Dantonio or the MSU AD about the outcome.
Hey....I said right from the start that all else being equal OSU would have trouble keeping their BCS position as high as needed to be in the BCS title game. That said......I felt that Ohio State could run the table with that schedule and they did with the exception of one very tough Wisconsin team. As it turns out......my prediction is for Auburn to lose this Sat. so if OSU had run the table it would be Oregon vs. OSU for the BCS Title. But I don't think an unbeaten OSU would be jumping unbeaten Auburn or Oregon into the BCS title game......and that would make me correct in my original preseason assertions about the Buckeyes schedule.
We were ranked #1 at the time of our loss to Wisky.......we wouldn't have had to jump anybody. We would have already been there......
The first BCS rankings came out on Oct. 17th....one day after the Buckeye loss to Wisconsin. OSU was never BCS #1 this season and I contend thay would not have been with several other teams sporting unbeaten records and tougher looking schedules ahead of them. As the season wore on teams like Auburn played increasingly higher ranked opponents than did the Buckeyes. I think OSU might have maintained a coaches ranking of #1 but the Harris voters and computers would have seen it differently.