Charlie needs to hold a press conference and announce he's stepping down. His own words put him here with these expectations. There is no way possible for him to achieve redemption. Let's fire up the coaching wheel. It's time for the change. ps I have never understood why people begged for Sergio Brown to start.. The staff moved him into the lineup as if they were giving into the pressure to play the kid and he's looked worse each week. He can't defend the run. There's a reason why he was a nickle back all this time.
Deadman Walking. Of course he was really screwed by the fumble call, I don't know how they could call that a fumble. Didn't help that his Sr. OL chopped the guy on the previous play.
This was supposed to be the best group of DB's in 15 years. That either tells you how bad the DB's have been the last 15 years or how bad the combo of Corwin Brown and Jon Tenuata are at utilizing all that talent.
Can we also give a shoutout to Sam Young who was mentioned often by the broadcast crew. (Because he was beaten as often as a rented mule.)
From what I read here, hear and read elsewhere I think that it may be like what happened with the Gators and Ron Zook. The noise in our system just reached a point after losing to Miss State that it would have been impossible for Zook to win over enough support to be successful as our head coach. I never thought he was given a fair chance by a lot of our fans but it worked out well for us. I wish the Notre Dame fans well, as long as Meyer isn't involved.
Just remember it's not over untile the fat lady.......er, that's something else.....it's not over until Sid is willing to throw in the towel. Then there is no hope.
first of all, playing Pitt at Pitt is one of the shittiest, most corrupt venues ever. We've played them there before where they've never been called for a penalty, or like last night, are only called when it can't be avoided. That 'fumble' call was beyond bizarre. If they don't review that play, not one person in the stadium would have cared. Had they review it and called it (correctly) an incomplete pass, no one would have cared. By ruling that a fumble, they've once again reinforced my belief that Pitt is a horrible, **** burger of a cheating town where the only way you can tell the women from the men by the color of their bicep tattoos. I can live with uncalled PI.. I can live with their DE being 3 feet across the LOS at the snap of the ball.. I can live with with their OT tackling our DE on every play. What I can't live with is having to be in the position of requiring a miracle come back to beat a team that we were more talented than at every spot on the field aside from TB... and even their phenom at TB.. well, I've seen better. I'm being kind because I know he has some fans on this board, but he ain't all that and I'll leave it at that. Their most talented player is Baldwin and we have at least 3 WRs better than that guy., I think we have some solid assistants on this staff and would like to see some of them retained if possible. I would also like to thank Charlie Weis. He left this place in a better condition than he found it (much better actually). I don't question his love for the school one iota. I just don't think he can take us any further. In a perfect world, we could retain him in a recruiting/OC capacity, but this isn't a perfect world. When the Wanstache can't give you a football game, you aren't getting it done. A head coach must have patience. The defenses that almost always beat Weis' offense, which means they beat our team, is the one that lays back and rushes 4... They make us show patience and nickle/dime our way down the field.. They'll concede defeat, if we'll concede big numbers and flash. We simply will not do it, to the detriment of the team.. We can't have that. This team has talent, it needs direction. Even our OC is talented. I'm not here to tell you he isn't good.. he is great... But there isn't an overall direction.. No one is at the controls. It's like a band of great musicians that never makes it.. Without a great manager./producer, thy're just another band that you kinda remember from the local festival or beer bars. With real leadership, they could be the Rolling Stones.. I still like Corwin Brown.. Tenuta can go.
Whoever the next coach is, he's got a large hurdle to get over. He'll have to learn that a touchdown is not a touchdown if the replay ref is involved. He have to learn that no matter how often his receivers are mugged on their routes that defensive holding and pass interference is something called on ND not their opponents. Incomplete passes become fumbles, kickers hit by their own blockers are roughed by ND rushers and the slightest bit of elation will be excessive celebration at Michigan Stadium. Fair and honest officiating seems to have gone out with the large BCS payouts.
true enough but that is still part of being the coach at ND. USC has been pulling this crap people are upset about long before there was a BCS. it's a rough job, not many are truly up for it. Charlie wants the job, and he's an ND man.. I just don't think he can go any further and see no evidence to prove that he's going to learn on that front.
That fumble vs incomplete pass reminded me of the one against the Gators in 2006 in Auburn, Leaks hand was going forward but it was called a fumble and upheld in the booth. The rule says if the arm is going forward it's an incomplete pass. I thought the call last night was bad and the one against us three years ago was bad. I don't buy that officials are corrupt, I do think with the $$$ involved with College football these days they could get better officials than much of what I see on TV.
I remember that Bill. I believe last night, the call on the field was actually incomplete pass. The review booth injected itself in the game and put an end to it. With the type of money that is on the line out there... the officials don't need to be working for the conferences.
Yeah Corey it was opposite the way it occurred but similar in the results. If there was a way for the NCAA to take over the officials and have them be full time I would go for it. I just don't see that happening anytime soon.
You guys spend a lot of time blaming the officials when the real problem is that we just plain stink. The worst tackling team I have ever seen north of a Pop Warner team. The middle of our defense has been a smorgasbord of treats for almost every team we played. A veteran offensive line that cannot block and staff of coaches who have a copy of "Coaching for Idiots" tucked under their arms. Did I mention we can't punt either? Tenuta's ticket is already punched; he's just serving out his sentence. I think whoever takes Weis' job will show Corwin Brown the door as well. It's time for our five year complete overhaul.....
I seem to have always been villified here with respect to my views on officiating but it now appears many here are coming around to that same viewpoint. I think anything that can be done to neutralize the officiating with respect to local/conference ties should be done. Of course that would require probably 3 or 4 full time people on NCAA staff just to organize and deal with the logistics and it would cost more for travel and accomodations for the out of region assignments. For example to have the replay official at Auburn who made the Leak call be a resident of Auburn and have a son there is a complete mistake in my opinion. Especially the replay official should never have local or regional ties. With the BCS money that is part of the equation today I think the NCAA could afford this deregionalization plan.
Maybe we can get officials from other countries? Perhaps robots or androids? Maybe no officials.... we'll call it Wrestlemania!!
Dave, There is a difference in finding fault with officials and actively analyzing each play to see how bad the Gators get screwed... basing that opinion on the amount of penalties called against your team as opposed to the opposition regardless of validity. :wink:
George... <t>I have been on this defense since the Nevada game and we shut them out but if one really watched the game it was telling the number of wide open receivers they had, drops etc. It has been on the downslide ever since.<br/> I have never bought into some of our fans yelling about all this talent on this roster. NOT ON DEFENSE. I've never seen a group of DBS look less for the football than this group and take your pick they all are horrible. The next guy has his work cut out for him to get that mess fixed. <br/> Last night was a picnic compared to what Stanford does to us. I said on this board weeks ago I dread the game. At least I know we will have a new head coach after its over. Now how does that search play out is the key.</t>