An ode to AJ's avatar

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  1. IrishCorey

    IrishCorey Well-Known Member

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  2. HUSKERMAN-HUSKERFAN

    HUSKERMAN-HUSKERFAN Well-Known Member

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    (A) Because we're Nebraska....we don't accept offers, we make them. :wink:

    (B) Their AD (Bleymeier?) wants A-Rodian $$$ just to make the trip. They should pay us for the "Privledge" of entering the Motherland.

    (C) South Dakota St. might want to make a return trip.

    8)
     
  3. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    Interesting: on the 2 for 1 deal, I'm sure that the finances are the angle there and the size of the Neb stadium vs Boise State.

    At Texas, recently at least, we have been doing the 1 for 1 deal with the midmajors. We've gone to Wyoming, UCF and UTEP places where most major powers wouldn't even think about going. But 2 for 1 is still more than a lot of big schools will be wiling to do with Boise.

    The 2011 deal is clearly one where Neb feels it's got a "tough" enough non-conf schedule and wouldn't touch a Boise State game with a 10' poll.

    Also I wonder how many really top teams don't already have a game on that date?
     
  4. IrishCorey

    IrishCorey Well-Known Member

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    Hold up Doc.

    Their noncon is Fresno, Wyoming and Washington.....

    Whey is it those are wussies when a Boise or someone out west plays them, but it's a 'tough road' when Nebraska has to play them?

    AJ,

    :)

    ps
    love the avatar
     
  5. HUSKERMAN-HUSKERFAN

    HUSKERMAN-HUSKERFAN Well-Known Member

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    Additionally: What Doc said :lol:
     
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    IrishCorey Well-Known Member

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    sack up and take the 2011 deal. You ARE NEBRASKA after all :)

    choo choo?
     
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    HUSKERMAN-HUSKERFAN Well-Known Member

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    Woo Woo.... :wink:
     
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    Seems to me that Nebraska has offered Boise a very good deal that could help the Boise program.

    I don't know why they don't accept it and deal with the problem for next year as a separate issue or with another team.
     
  9. IrishCorey

    IrishCorey Well-Known Member

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    The 2 for 1 deal wouldn't start until 2015 so there is no saying that it won't happen.

    The more pressing issue is... for all those 'pro-BCS/Boise and the little boys don't play anyone' posse will be the issue that Boise has now thrown down an open invitation.

    As Wetzel points out in his article, these power teams are paying upwards of 600k to get a bonafide patsy to come to town... The 2011 deal is for anyone who will take it and it will cost them between 800k to a million dollars which is more than doable for these major programs...

    Think about it.. You get a top 10/15 team that is willing to come to your place and play you without any hope, promise or inference that you have to go back to their place and play them at your stadium. The TV revenue alone (which ESPN is already fully backing) will cover the cost of having Boise come to town...
     
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    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    I guess my question is has the Boise AD actually contacted and attempted to enter into negotiations with any of those teams with open dates that you pointed out in the other topic?

    What you fail to account for is none of those teams need Boise State as their opening game. They are all conference teams whose fate is more tied to how they do in their conference than who they play non-conf. The weaker teams on your list need guaranteed victories ( the Bill Synder school of scheduling) and the stronger teams flat out don't need Boise State at all.

    Boise State on the other hand can really use the visibility that they get when they play BCS conference opponents. They not only should be offering a 1 fer but the most favorable conditions possible as far as finances.
     
  11. IrishCorey

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    Which points to the fact that...

    You can't say 'they don't play people', when the reality as evident by your own posting is that 'people won't play them.'

    But really, look at what you are asking for!

    Not only are you basically saying they should offer the one time road game, but that they should also settle for the financial payout of a doormat 1-aa team!?!?

    As Wetzel mentioned, these schools are already paying 600k for a doormat, why not drop the extra 300k for a real opponent?

    Your posting shows exactly what is wrong with this system.. not you personally. Your perception is not just one man's..

    They are, literally, in a no-win situation...even though you can't beat them on the football field.
     
  12. Terry O'Keefe

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    You have to do what you have to do inorder to get where you want to go. Boise State wants more respect, the current situation favors a weak out of conference schedule with the exception of 1 game.

    If Boise is going to sit back and say wah, wah, wah, nobody will play us...then I don't care. But if they want on to somebody's schedule and there are circumstances that would allow that then they need to avail themselves of those circumstances. If that means going to Miami and playing for free then they should do it!

    Tell me when life has ever been fair.
     
  13. IrishCorey

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    Tell me when ANY program has ever done that?

    Even Florida State got paid for their road games and that cost went up as FSU got better.

    You keep posting and you keep showing exactly what is wrong with this system...

    I mean really.. Why even have the nonBCS teams?

    You're now asking that they play in a system set up for the power conference, in road only games set up by the BCS conference teams rules and they are to take the payout deemed appropriate by the BCS conference team.

    WTH has 85% of the Big12, 90% of the Big10, the whole damned Big East, 90% of the Pac10, 95% of the ACC and 80ish% of the SEC ever done to prove that they are so worthy and so awesome that they should be able to dictate and demand such power?

    Yet you can say Boise is the one claiming 'wah wah wah'... The bottom line is that there are too many alleged 'big boys' who are too pussy to put their reputation on the line.

    That's a fact.
     
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    ps

    As mentioned in the article here, and posted in the other section.

    ESPN is trying to broker this deal. You're hiding behind money and circumstance... if ESPN is willing to front this (and they are) then you're hiding behind a straw man that is on fire...
     
  15. HUSKERMAN-HUSKERFAN

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    Ok, I'm gonna call my connections back home. Thursday night game, prime time, ESPN funded and the fight is on. Man, this reminds me of Kinshasa.
     
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    Corey,
    I am hesitant to enter this but if we ( you and I) are proponents of the tradition and longstanding performance of the old guard (Notre Dame, Alabama, USC, Nebraska, Ohio State, Texas etc) then we have to discount the upstarts. Boise, Fresno, Cincy, Rutgers etc have to prove themselves over time to "demand" one for one equivalency with Nebraska. Don't you think?
     
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    Boise State isn't owed anything, that would be like saying that because Gonzaga has done well in the NCAA Basketball tournaments that Major conference teams owe it to them to put them on the schedule.
     
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    Terry has it right.

    Boise State has now appeared in two BCS games and won them both. It's not like they are not moving in the direction they want to move. I'm hoping that article is right and they might end up in the Pac 10.

    That article also says that he expects the Conference USA to become better.

    It's one thing to complain about a system and it's quite another to just change it over night. One way things change is for a team like Boise State to continue winning and continue playing in a way that makes someone like me want to watch them when they are on tv.

    And I do, anytime a Boise State game is on at a time I can watch and it doesn't conflict with a Gator game or another national game I am interested in, I turn them on and I root for them.

    I love their blue field by the way.
     
  20. Terry O'Keefe

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    Maybe Boise State is the next FSU and Peterson is the next Bobbah Bowden ( the good Bobby who used to actually coach and recruit). But like FSU they will have to work their way up the ladder nobody is going to give it to them because they won some bowl games.