and so it begins.. http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/2013/one-loss-sec-champion-title-shot/ Queue Dave.. Queue Kes countering Dave.. Queue JOCO reminding everyone of Auburn's struggle and bad call aided win over Wazzu... I won't miss the BCS one damned bit.
Corey, Is the rumor true that a top white house individual wants to be able to vote on the selections? :lol:
I can imagine what would happen if Auburn did get in the Champ game... A meteor will come down and annihilate the other team's bench, leaving Auburn the winner by default. Why not?... many of their other wins have been that freaky! And for the record... as long as there are two undefeated teams not named N Illinois, there should be no discussion.
If a one loss sec team is to jump undefeated osu (if they beat msu, which is a big if) i vote for bama. They have the better loss, the better resume, and are obviously the better team. So what if they didn't win their conference, hell even their division. That has already proved not to matter when it comes to putting sec teams in the ncg.
Well as long as there are 2 undefeated major conference teams those two should play for the title this year. I don't care if both FSU and Ohio State barely scrape by in their championship games and Auburn smashes Missouri or vice versa. You can not help but note that Auburn needed more than 1 miracle just to be a 1 loss team.
I have enough respect for MSU that if Ohio State defeats them in the Big10 title game I cannot deny OSU..... owner of a 25 game winning streak.... the right to play for the national title. Auburn beat Bama by the skin of their teeth..... because they made the right call to kick the extra point..... (and Michigan didn't by the way... ) And Auburn lost to a decent but not overwhelming LSU squad. Gotta go with the Buckeyes on this one.
Out of curiosity just how were Michigan's chances better in OT with a gimpy Gardner and an injured FB kicker than they were in going for 2?
Hoke absolutely made the right decision to go for the win. Gardner was finished at that point and OSU was running at will. Hoke knew it was now or never.
Uh......what happens if Missouri beats Auburn? They only have one loss too and it was in overtime. I'm rooting for a NC matchup of Missouri and Michigan State. If the Spartans win, then Notre Dame claims the NC as well as the Big Ten... ......Seeker of Truth and Justice......JO'Co
Hey you may be glad to see the BCS go, but do you realize looking at the rankings that if we didn't have the BCS this year there would most likely be 2 SEC teams among the 4 teams. FSU, OSU, Alabama and the winner of Auburn and Missouri. If that was the case I will say the same thing I did last year, Bama would be favored. Also having watched FSU in person Sat they are an awesome football team.
Dave, Ohio, by the second half, was encountering little resistance, if any, from Michigan's defense and dominated the second half. They were up 2 touchdown by the 4th quarter but Michigan was able to climb back into the game, in large part, because of a fumble by Hyde which led to a short field drive by M for a touchdown. Hoke faced two major problems going into OT. (1) Our inability to stop Ohio's ground game; and (2) No trust in our ability to kick a field goal as Gibbons was hurt with Ohio having a reliable kicking game; therefore, if both teams were able to stop one another from scoring a TD in OT, the Buckeyes held a key advantage since they were more likely to be able to successfully kick a field goal. Another problem was that Gardner was playing injured and, by the end of the game, was having great difficulty making cuts when running. In contrast Miller looked like a deer running through a cornfield during much of the second half. Since the ability of the QB to move is critical to both offenses, that gave Ohio another key advantage if the game went into OT. Basically, I think Hoke concluded the odds of making a 2pt conversion were better than our ability to out score the Buckeyes in OT. Given Gardner's worsening physical condition and not having a reliable field goal kicker, I think his calculation as to which choice provided him the best opportunity to win was correct. More pertinent criticism might be made against the play that was called. Just before the snap, Meyer called a time out. After the TO, we came out in the same formation. After the game, the Buckeye DB who intercepted the ball indicated that based on that formation and Michigan's play calling tendencies, he knew, per his coaches, what play was going to be run and jumped the pass pattern.
Jo Co, You forgot about FSU. You will also need a Dookie miracle. Among the more despondent Wolvie faithful, the scenario that is foreseen is the Buckeyes playing in championship game against FSU but with Winston being barred from playing due to felony charges being filed after the BCS selection process is completed -- leading to a Buckeye national championship IMHO, the quality of Buckeye's offense provides them the ability to beat anyone regardless of their deficiencies on defense. I hope they win it all since I think their success would compel other B10 teams to improve in order to compete with them raising the level of play in the entire conference.
Here's the thing fellas... Why is everyone questioning Ohio State, but not Florida State? Who the hell has Florida State played this year? Who have they beaten? I mean, take a good critical analysis of it and I don't see why FSU is such an automatic. FSU housed a Clemson team who was supposed to be good because they beat Georgia.. in the light now of greater evidence, that doesn't seem like that big of a deal and the game was at Clemson. The 3rd place team in Florida State's division is f*cking SYRACUSE. The rest of the division is BC, Maryland, Wake Forest and NC State. That was their tough division road. Florida State's noncon games were against Bethune-Cookman, Nevada, Idaho and the worst Florida team anyone can remember in quite some time. Granted, they've murdered the teams they've played but a strong case can be made that their schedule is just as bad (if not worse) than Ohio State's. I would posit that Michigan State is at least as good, if not better, than anyone Florida State has played this year.
Corey, I am undoubtedly biased on this topic, but along with your observations, which I agree with, ESPN has had it in for The Ohio State University for some time. I am not sure where it all started, but they delight in pounding on the Buckeyes. It will be interesting to see how they handle this topic moving forward.Game Day is scheduled for our bout with MSU, in Indianapolis Saturday.
Corey, that Georgia team was very good at the beginning of the season and until injuries piled up on them would have very likely won the East and very possibly be sitting at 11-1 right now. Your comment about ESPN, I don't really feel that way. In fact I thought ESPN had a lot to do with Meyer ending up at Ohio State. What I do agree with is that ESPN has way to much influence with what goes on in the sports world. But then we all tune them in don't we.
Yesterday morning when the ESPN talking heads started on the BCS standings and pimping the SEC I almost puked. OSU is taking the brunt of the crap because they're ranked no. 2 and stand between Auburn and the NC game. If OSU was no. 1 and FSU no. 2 they'd be ripping the Noles along the same line as Corey's comments above.
You don't think the ESPN/SECNetwork affiliation has anything to do with ESPN being in the tank for the SEC do you?
Ohio State and Michigan State. Both teams played Michigan, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Northwestern, and Purdue. MSU won by an average score of 31-10 (total point differential: 126). OSU win by an average score of 46-24 (total point differential: 130). The biggest difference was Purdue, where OSU won 56-0 and MSU won 14-0. In the other five games, MSU won by an average of 22 while OSU won by 15.