This is from IOTW Glo Bull Warming Enthusiasts On The Run Home - by BigFurHat - July 6, 2011 - 22:45 America/New_York - 11 Comments The AGW alarmists have made it official, they have openly and publicly displayed that they have no idea what the hell they are talking about. Usually leftists are on the same page, you know, with the talking points memos and all, but lately they are just going rogue because the data is a mess and there isn’t a solitary coherent message. Now they’ve tossed in the towel completely on saying the planet is warming and concede that it is cooling, and the culprit is China’s coal. But coal burning produces carbon, and carbon, we have been told OVER and OVER again, causes warming. It’s right there, in all those ice core samples. Not so fast. Nay nay. Don’t jump to conclusions. What do you think you are, settled scientists? Frustrated climate alarmists, who have failed to match global temperature trends to their dramatic global warming predictions for years, have come up with a counterintuitive study to explain the lack of global warming since 1998: China’s excessive burning of coal during its rapid growth had a cooling effect on the earth’s temperature. The new study, based on Fox News global warming skepticism, contradicts much of the anti-coal sentiments held by environmentalists. While it explains that burning coal does emit heat-trapping carbon dioxide into the atmosphere, it also releases heat-reflecting sulfur into the atmosphere, and the two work to cancel each other’s effects out. This study comes after global warming skeptics questioned lead researcher Robert Kaufmann about the lack of global warming over the past decade. As Kaufmann explained to BBC News: Two years ago, I gave a talk to a general audience in New Jersey about climate change. And an older gentleman asked me ‘why should I believe in this climate change – I was watching Fox News and they said the earth’s temperature hasn’t changed in 10 years and has actually gone down.’ At that stage I wasn’t paying much attention to climate change – I’d returned to working on oil markets – so I went back and checked the data and found that was just about right. As it turns out, China, which climate alarmists have long blamed as a major and unregulated contributor to global warming, may surprisingly be responsible for keeping the earth at cooler temperatures over the last decade due to its emission of sulfur into the atmosphere.
They would have plenty of concise clear evidence to support their agenda if they came to central Texas. Record high temps through Spring to make it feel like Summer. Record highs in the Summer so far make it feel like... well, maybe Hell! I am not a global warming lefty following Al Bore around the planet. We have had a high pressure system parked over central Texas for so long we are in the worst drought ever. :cry:
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Scientist Whose Climate Change Research on Polar Bears Was Cited By Al Gore Will Face Lie Detector Test Over “Integrity Issues”… (Daily Mail) — A wildlife scientist, whose report on dead polar bears in Arctic waters became a rallying call for climate change campaigners, will face a lie detector test as part of an investigation by federal agents. Jeffrey Gleason, who co-wrote a 2006 report highlighting the danger posed to the animals by melting ice, will take a polygraph over alleged scientific misconduct connected to the study, the Independent reported. It is the latest twist to what some have dubbed ‘Polarbeargate’ in which Mr Gleason and his co-author Charles Monnett, whose research was cited by Al Gore in An Inconvenient Truth and made polar bears a symbol of global warming, have been repeatedly questioned by authorities. Their supporters claim the investigation is nothing more than a witch-hunt geared towards intimidating researchers whose studies might affect the politics of climate change. The pair’s 2006 report told of dead bears floating in the Arctic Ocean in 2004, apparently drowned having been forced to swim further for food. But earlier this year, allegations were made within the U.S. Department of the Interior over ‘integrity issues’ in relation to the report, and the Department’s Office of Inspector General (OIG) began an inquiry.
Wasn't going to comment on this topic until I saw this article a few minutes ago: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45114342/ns/technology_and_science-science/ The heat wave stats are real......not liberal conjecture......i.e. the "hottest summer on record since the Dust Bowl of 1936"... One thing I read before that seems to hold water is that the midwest winters would actually get worse with global warming because of the extra moisture in the atmosphere. In Detroit when it snows early and often and there is a good snow cover by mid-December then an icebox effect occurs and the winter gets long and brutal. That's exactly what happened my last winter there in 08-09 as we had a major snowstorm on Dec. 12th and then endured the 3rd snowiest winter on record in Detroit ( is it any wonder I have no desire to go back? ). The other winters since have also been hit with major blasts of snow as witnessed by the 20 plus inches Chicago was inundated with in late Jan. last year. So....as usual there are two sides to every story but you wouldn't know it by reading this message board.
Here's the irony. China is by far the champion when it comes to emitting carbon into the atmosphere. Meanwhile the libs keep up with the mantra "the US has 5% of the earth's population but consumes 25% of the energy." That's supposed to be the final say on the matter but it isn't. In reality we are much cleaner in our use of fossil fuels. So while we beat our breasts in anguish over our supposed destruction of the earth's environment, China the real culprit is making billions building products like solar panels and selling them to us. Just how f'n stupid are some of our politicians and scientists?
What are the numbers on the consumption side for China with regard to trade with U.S.? If there are real and significant disparitys then I'm all for adjustments in our trade policy.
Worse in 2008 means that it's not necessarily a DEM problem. Somebody/anybody needs to get a grip on the problem though. What's the excuses?
Forget the trade deficit. We're being forced to go green by using devices like solar panels because WE spew Carbon into the atmosphere. Meanwhile we are buying them from the Carbon champ China. The problem is the radical eco nazis that are spending all their time ranting against the US when we are no where near the major player in the carbon crimes.
Carbon Footprint of T-Rex Home - by Claudia - November 22, 2011 - 10:00 America/New_York - 8 Comments Polar Bear Saving Internet Creator, Al Gore, All Set To Become World’s First Carbon Billionaire by Sad Hill Despite the hoax, that is Global Warming (HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE and HERE), someone needs to pay for Al Gore’s $1,359/month utility bill — that’s for just one (as in singular) of his mansions. Smile! Al Gore is thinking of you. Al Gore – World’s First Carbon Billionaire? (Daily Finance) As a partner at Silicon Valley venture capital heavyweight Kleiner Perkins Caulfield & Byers, Gore is poised to reap hundreds of millions from investments in the companies that will benefit from the government’s increased emphasis on green technology. According to The New York Times‘s John Broder,Gore could become the world’s first “carbon billionaire.” Gore has been one of the most outspoken critics of global warming and a powerful advocate of carbon-reducing measures. As such, he has become a hero of the left — a man revered for warning Americans to curb their carbon footprint and reduce their impact on the Earth.
According to recent estimates, there are currently 14,000 abandoned wind farms dotting the landscape in the U.S. Hawaii, for example, has 37 abandoned wind turbines at one site and there are five other abandoned wind sites in the Hawaiian Islands. In California, there are thousands of such abandoned sites, including Altamont Pass, Techachapin and San Gorgonio — all considered perfect spots for wind turbines. So, what happened? Well, first off, birds get killed by these huge machines and the PETA crowd goes insane. The Altamont site, for example, is shut down four months out of the year to protect migrating birds. Second, when government subsidies stop, the projects die. Third, wind power has proven to be unreliable as a consistent source of power. There’s either too little wind, too much wind, or it’s too cold to operate them. In Britain, the energy industry admitted as long ago as 2008 that wind turbines are idle up to 30% of the time because of the unreliability of the wind. A report from the British Renewable Energy Foundation at the time describes the economically disastrous wind turbine industry. It is unlikely that the Obama Administration will let facts get in the way of their war against fossil fuels and their love affair with solar and wind power. Expect more taxpayer dollars to be flushed down the rathole of solar and wind boondoggles.
Climatologists Trade Tips on Destroying Evidence, Evangelizing Warming http://www.dailytech.com/Climatologists+Trade+Tips+on+Destroying+Evidence+Evangelizing+Warming/article23368.htm
(Daily Mail) — Britain’s leading green activist research centre spent £15,000 on seminars for top BBC executives in an apparent bid to block climate change sceptics from the airwaves, a vast new cache of leaked ‘Climategate’ emails has revealed. The emails — part of a trove of more than 5,200 messages that appear to have been stolen from computers at the University of East Anglia — shed light for the first time on an incestuous web of interlocking relationships between BBC journalists and the university’s scientists, which goes back more than a decade. They show that University staff vetted BBC scripts, used their contacts at the Corporation to stop sceptics being interviewed and were consulted about how the broadcaster should alter its programme output. Like the first ‘Climategate’ leaks two years ago, they were placed last week on a Russian server by an anonymous source. Again like their predecessors, they have emerged just before a United Nations climate summit, which is to start this week in Durban. BBC insiders say the close links between the Corporation and the UEA’s two climate science departments, the Climatic Research Unit (CRU) and the Tyndall Centre for Climate Research, have had a significant impact on its coverage. ‘Following their lead has meant the whole thrust and tone of BBC reporting has been that the science is settled, and that there is no need for debate,’ one journalist said. ‘If you disagree, you’re branded a loony.’ In 2007, the BBC issued a formal editorial policy document, stating that ‘the weight of evidence no longer justifies equal space being given to the opponents of the consensus’ — the view that the world faces catastrophe because of man-made carbon dioxide emissions.
Curious as to how this winter turns out. And to see if more of this is in store for next summer: 'the "hottest summer on record since the Dust Bowl of 1936"... " So if the deficit doesn't get our descendants then global warming will and fixing one compliments the other and vice versa.
http://www.dailytech.com/Editorial+Full+Emails+Show+Climategate+20+is+More+Than+Just+Hot+Air/article23370.htm Dave, I drag my butt enough out the door everyday to do battle with the weather that I freely admit there has been a change in the weather to how it was 25 - 30 years ago. Now do I fully buy into the global warming, no I don't. Could it possibly be global warming, yes it might. Then again could it be a weather cycle event experienced every 100, 200, 700 or 7,000 years, yes it could be. Do I feel that scientist have a full grasp of what is going on or what exactly happened 200 or 7,000 years ago no I don't. Let's apply common sense if that is truly possible in these modern times and reduce pollution, find a clean affordable, available fuel source that will propel us into the next 150 years so our children's children have a chance to propagate in a clean world. Then again the deficit may have us whacking one another in the head for survival by next year... :twisted: Oh I forgot that happened at a few Walmarts this past weekend...