BSU loses to TCU in a close one. I didn't get to see the game but the highlights showed them missing a FG in the last seconds.
Exciting news for some programs. Actually the refs gave them a big break. On a fourth down play there was a PI call that was just awful. The pass was 20 ft. over the receiver's head and it also looked like contact didn't occur until after the ball had gone by the receiver. If Stanford loses to the Ducks....look out.
Oklahoma State and Stanford. Assuming LSU wins out, then one of those two win out those two have to finish unbeaten or Alabama will get a rematch. Two years in a row Boise loses by missing a short field goal.
Didn't see it but sounds like it was an excellent game, and Bill is right this is the 2nd year in a row they have missed a FG to stay undefeated. TCU!!! Proud future member of the B12!
Saw the replay of the PI call at the end. Agree it was a horrendous call. Also, watched the FSU-Miami game. The ACC refs again had some horrible calls like last week in our game with Wake Forest.
That officiating was awful all night. Still, once again, Boise has an inferior opponent late in the season but pisses it down their leg. Patterson said after the game that he doesn't ever want to play them again (he's getting into that BCS conference mindset lol). TCU's QB finally looks good in their offense. That's the best I've seen him play all year. It's clear they missed Dalton far more than people figured they would have.
No telling Gip.. I really don't understand all of the anti-Boise sentiment other than the fact that they represent the underdog that may upset the apple cart. The venom BCS backers take to rooting against them is pretty entertaining. I mean, it's not like they don't already operate above the law.. they do. Something tells me that Boise just may go nab some all-world kicker somewhere. I mean, it's not like they don't score lots of points.. and the coach has shown he will put you in the spot to win the game.
Corey, At least for me the impression I have is that Boise has learned that if they win one big game a year they can retreat back into a conference schedule that is not very challenging, go undefeated and expect the same respect as the other teams that have to play multiple ranked teams as part of their conference schedule. Boise played Georgia (No. 13), and then who? TCU who beat them. LSU played Oregon, WVU, Alabama, and they will play Arkansas (all ranked) and then play a conference championship game. It's not hatred its contempt. Play 3 or 4 or 5 ranked teams during the season, every year and then let's talk. I just concentrated on the SEC, but the Big 10, Big 8, PAC 10 all have the same argument. It's not hatred, but let them play against a higher caliber of competition before they claim parity.
I don't think it makes a hoot if BSU hasn't played as tough a schedule the BCS needs them or somebody like them every year to generate some interesting you know David vs Goliath. Seriously how many of the BCS games have been snores of a matchup. I mean will you get fired up for Va.Tech vs WVU in the Orange bowl? The games themselves don't really mean anthing anymore, so I'd rather have at least 1 game a season that is like BSU/OKlahoma, Wisconsin/TCU and of course Utah/Alabama...they were great games.
How about a new bowl game, the David vs. Goliath Bowl, where each year, the consensus best, i.e., highest rated non-BCS team plays the best BCS team available? It may not be the best team in the land because the 8 to 10 supposedly best BCS teams will be playing in BCS bowls, but it should be a highly competitive top 10 or 15 team. In some years, like the recent past in the case of BSU and TCU, the non-BCS team would deserve to play in a BCS bowl, but if the team is not ranked high enough to merit BCS selection, you still would have the makings of an exciting matchuop. It seems to me that to put team like BSU in a BCS bowl just because they beat a top 15 team and have built an undefeated or a one-loss record is going down a slippery slope of compromising what other teams have earned through conference play or scheduling difficulty or both.
Terry, You bring up Va. Tech/WVU and you are right but what about LSU and Oklahoma State (assuming both finish undefeated). Think about the schedule each of those teams will have gone through to get there and compare those schedules with Boise State's. The real shame is that Boise State may be just as good as anyone in the country, they just haven't played but one or maybe two ranked teams. 8)
KP/Sid, The issue is teams duck them. That's not speculation, that's a fact. ESPN has been throwing around money and trying to get people on board. Nebraska fans will tell you otherwise, and Boise fans can counter that BS offer that Nebraska made. I wouldn't say that Boise is intentionally seeking out a '1 game season and then retreating into a weak conference.' You can call it contempt, but when those same 'big boys' you are referencing all run from Boise (because they don't have anything to prove and everything to lose), it's just funny to me how anyone can call it contempt. The system protects these teams. It doesn't punish them for NOT playing Boise. In fact, there is nothing but reward for skipping them. The average fan sees what Boise does as strategic. There is a reason you've seen ESPN stop that nonsense (with the notable exception of the Craig James types). They've tried shopping the games against Boise and know how hard it is. So Boise goes out and just like they do.. they thump the Virginia Tech, Oklahoma, Oregon, Oregon State or Georgia types.. and the BCS fans groan.. they point back to the Georgia win years ago between the hedges as 'proof' that Boise doesn't belong. It's a sham..
KP I'm not whining about BSU somehow getting into the BCS Championship game when they are undefeated and there are BCS conf teams that are also undefeated. That sort of takes care of itself. What I am saying is that if BSU had finished undefeated and gone to say the Fiesta Bowl, there would be those out there who would say HORRORS!!! They didn't earn it, our conferences 2 loss also ran did and so instead of getting a good David type of team vs a Goliath which has given us a lot of excitement we'll get a rerun of a couple of BCS also rans that nobody will care about. A couple of years ago TCU/Boise got matched against each other and it would have been so much more exciting to have split them into 2 sep bowls vs Goliath from that BCS conference who had "earned" their way with a supposedly tough schedule.
Let me ask ya this..... If Boise played the ACC champ, the Big East champ or hell, even ND in a 'winner take all 'game for next year's spot in the BCS.. how confident are you that the 'established powers' would be able to protect it?
I'm not convinced that Boise wants to play anybody, I know, I know that's what they say but there are a lot of people that use the "anytime, anywhere" card. Why would Alabama rather play VT, Penn State, or Oklahoma, than Boise. The reason is that when they have to look 3 or 4 or 5 years into the future to make a schedule, those teams are a better bet than Boise. Sometimes it doesn't work out that way, but most times it does. Now if Boise stays around maybe more will schedule them but if I am looking for a signature out of conference game in 2017, what are the odds that Boise State will be around then? 8)
Alabama ducked off the ND schedule because of the shift to the super conference format.. Who is to say any of us will be around? I won't even make this an SEC bash fest. I will flat admit that the Pac12 teams are avoiding Boise. Why play them? Oregon had a very good team and were beaten at home by Boise. The next season was suppose to be the 'revenge' match up in Boise.. Oregon's high powered offense was totally shut down and Boise whipped their ass in a game that ended in the Oregon RB throwing punches. Oregon doesn't re-up their series and winds up playing for the title the next year rather than having their season ruined in September.