Don't tell me.....average middle class....even slow to catch up.....bamboozled by religion..... rural Americans are finally starting to do a little self examination and figure out their own real slot in the pecking order: http://money.cnn.com/2011/07/14/news/economy/debt_ceiling_taxes/index.htm?hpt=hp_t1 SIXTY-SEVEN percent don't buy the load of crap being handed to them by House Republicans!!!
That's interesting. After all those same folks voted those Republicans into office less than a year ago after they ran on a platform to oppose another nickel of Obama's pissing away of money.
BTW did Pelosi, Reid, and Obama give a **** that the majority of Americans didn't want their health care system?
:idea: As always, you miss the main point. The Republicans have a plan to debate and disagree with. People are asked if they like it and they say "no." Of course they don't like it, but what is the alternative? Obama has never even submitted a budget...not in three years of being an empty suit in the White House has he submitted one. What are his ideas? When that phony health care system was rammed down the throats of the American people, the massive tax increase to pay for it was put off to 2013...the year AFTER his reelection so that he can claim that he didn't raise taxes. Now he wants to do the same with Social Security and Medicare; put off all the tax increases and pain until after he's safely reelected and back on the golf course...
Here's another poll for ya: PRINCETON, NJ — Registered voters by a significant margin now say they are more likely to vote for the “Republican Party’s candidate for president” than for President Barack Obama in the 2012 election, 47% to 39%. Preferences had been fairly evenly divided this year in this test of Obama’s re-election prospects. The latest results are based on a July 7-10 poll, and show that the Republican has an edge for the second consecutive month. Obama held a slight edge in May, when his approval rating increased after the death of Osama bin Laden. As his rating has come back down during the last two months, so has his standing on the presidential “generic ballot.” Here's another one: only 16% of Americans are satisfied with the direction of the country under Obama...
It's hard to imagine Obama getting re-elected under any circumstances but then you look at the entitled dependent classes that he has nurtured so carefully, the class warfare that he has engineered and some people have bought into and you know that he has a chance. The worst president in history by a country mile and he has a chance to get four more years. Only in America.
Tell me this, if you ask the US people the question, "Do you approve of the President's handling of the US deficit/debt situation?" What percentage do you think would approve? I believe it would approach zero....he has not handled it. He has done nothing except blame others.... JO'Co is exactly on point.....he has put forth no plan. He has put forth no budget.....he has appointed a deficit reduction commission and ignored their recommendations......he and his comrades are focused only on political posturing, campaigning and elections. They have no skills nor any interest in running the government. He is the Chief Executive, what is his job? How's he doing?
Speaking of average middle class, let's give them - and yourself - some helpful information before we ask them the question...... Estimates for fiscal 2011 budget receipts (say tax revenues) are within 0.03% of being the largest ever collected in the history of our country which was fiscal 2007. Government spending has increased by over 40% since that time and the deficit has widened ALMOST TENFOLD .......and the argument for the need to increase taxes is what? Take a hypothetical household under the same circumstances.... You're making as much money as you ever have in a very successful and lucrative career. The wife and kids are spending money hand over fist, dramatically increasing amounts year after year now at an accelerating pace including the purchase of many things you adamantly oppose and are simply wasteful. You've long ago burnt through the entirety of your savings/investments and have been accumulating debt at a frightening pace to the point that you can no longer make ends meet and the creditors are knocking at your door and default is being discussed and on the horizon..... The wife and kids tell you they won't stop spending money until you agree to demand a raise even if it means potentially making less or losing your job........ Dear Gator, what is your reaction?
A guy on CNBC asked this rhetorical question yesterday: " If someone asked you to make a choice between taking the contents of the U.S. Treasury or sole ownership of FaceBook, which would you choose?" His assertion was that FaceBook is currently worth more than the contents of the U.S. Treasury. If that is so, maybe that will sink in to some of these hard-headed folks who think this whole situation is overblown.
I corrected my typo. here is something that I did not write but wish I had: The 5 best sentences you will ever read Unfortunately, most voters don't know this. These are possibly the 5 best sentences you'll ever read: 1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity, by legislating the wealth out of prosperity. 2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. 3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. 4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. 5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work, because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.
That is interesting. Without tax increases how can that be possible unless the economy and income levels are at 2007 levels?
GDP and personal income are in fact higher now than in 2007..... The problem is that it is just not big enough nor growing rapidly enough to keep up with the spending binge of the drunken sailors on leave who think they just won the lottery in Washington..... I ask again..... Having a brain is no doubt a great and wonderful thing.....using it for something besides a hat rack is a much better thing
That has to be a good thing considering that most of 2007 was pre-recession I think. So your premise is that the economy needs to be better but is OK except for the spending? If not cutting the spending then the economy needs a raise it can't get....correct? I can look it up but since I'm lazy today in what areas specifically is Obama spending more than Bush did in his last few years?
There is no raise possible that would be large enough to solve the spending problem and if you place an ever greater burden and continue to decrease the efficiency and effectiveness of the very engine you require to move your society towards prosperity, how can you EVER get there? You cannot.....in fact your society will begin to decay. This is one of the great fallacies of the welfare state. So you want somebody else to do it for you......there's a shocker. At least you're consistent.....I think we'd all be better off if you did it for yourself.
Milton Friedman on the "Fallacy of the Welfare State"....a little dry and academic but not that long and certainly relevant and timely. <iframe width="425" height="349" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/EHjVxmJrpHo" frameborder="0"></iframe>
Actually I'm very busy at work today.....but while at lunch I read this in the St. Pete Times in today's edition: How did the debt grow from 5.8 trillion in 2001 to it's current 14.3 trillion? The biggest contributors to the nearly 9 trillion dollar increase over a decade, from largest to smallest: - 2001 and 2003 tax cuts under George Bush: 1.6 trillion - additional interest costs: 1.4 trillion - wars in Iraq and Afghanistan: 1.3 trillion - economic stimulus package under Obama: .8 trillion - 2010 tax cuts, compromise by Obama and GOP that extended jobless benefits and cut payroll taxes: .4 trillion - 2003 creation of Medicare's prescription drug benefit: .3 trillion - 2008 financial industry bailout: .2 trillion - hundreds of billions in lost revenues from the Great Recession which began in Dec. 2007 - other spending programs in domestic and defense sectors So......even though I asked.....I see why you do not want to post such a list as given above. The GOP and the conservatives here like to paint Obama as some evil....drunken spending idiot soley responsible for the debt crisis we are in but the facts obviously do not support that outrageous.......lunatic contention. Now stick that in you effing pipe and smoke it.