That is beyond dumb hipper, ypou quote me, make comments aboutwhatI said that in fact twisted what I said, then I comment back to you that I did say some of what you said and you make this off the wall comment? Sorry but likeI said that is beyond dumb.
Terry, personally I do not care and maybe even hope there are some changes. However a lot of people continue to overlook the fact that there is no NCAA rule against ths practice. If it is so unethical then there should be. Heck it would be in the Gators interest for a rule to be passed so I sure do not object. And I have no objection to your position. I do object to people who say the SEC needs to adopt a rule because the Big Ten, Big Twelve or any other conference adopted a rule. Like kp said, the logical end to that argument is for all of us to adopt Ivy League rules. Also, picking isolated incidents like the writer did about a player that lost a scholarship does not mean it has happened very often. What Was done to that player by LSU was wrong, no doubt about it. I seriously doubt many players get left out in the cold.
OK so you Gators are starting to sound like John Kerry to me! . You're against it but would go for it if the SEC wants to continue doing it.
Terry, I guess that I am saying it is not that much of an issue with me. If I was in charge I would tighten up in some areas but still leave room to cover yourself for non qualifiers and I would limit being able to drop existing players for the newest four o4 five star you want to put on your roster. But I also believe there are a lot of other areas where college football needs to clean up. This issue is not nearly important as some others. What I believe in living by the rules but also believe in understanding them and make sure you use all the avenues available to you to use, even pushing the envelope. But I do not believe in cheating. I also get very aggravated, which I am sure comes as a shock to you , with people who like to just throw stones and feel they have all the answers. You are not like that and I have always respected your opinion even when we disagree because you have the right approach. I think that if you were running the NCAA and I was running the SEC we would be able to reach an agreement very quickly. Probably a bit of compromise on both parts but something we could both live with. However if I'm running the SEC and one of several other people here were running the NCAA and they wanted to call names, deride my conference or me then I would most likely dig in my heels. I think from some of the recent topics and previous topics you know what I am talking about. Well it's a nice sunshine day in Maine so I am going to enjoy myself.
I forgot you were in Maine, have you enjoyed the blueberries? Amongst the best I've ever had! Pie,Cobbler, just on cereal...they are sweet!
No blueberries yet but I had a Lobster sandwich for lunch. My wife says the blueberries don't come in until July, if that's so we will miss them.
Beautiful place.....both of my parents were born in Maine and still have many relatives there....my father lived in Bangor for years while he was working at Univ of Maine...always enjoy getting back - in the summer!
We have only been to Maine one other time, a number of years ago in Southern Maine for about three days in May. This is our first trip to Acadia and so far we are enjoying it. We are doing it on a leisurely pace as we don't want to wear us old timers out. My wife does a blog and the last two days have been about Maine with some pictures we took and some she lifted from the internet. I'm going to post a link in a topic in a few minutes.
SEC today voted to limit signing classes to 25 and to ban graduate students from transfering and becoming immediately eligible. I'm surprised at that ban on grad students, but truth is there really won't be many kids affected and it's been rare that a player of significance transfered after graduation.
Terry, I think it is a distinct advantage for any conference that does not do the same thing. How about you? :wink:
Well it seems the SEC has gone beyond what some of the other conferences are doing. A hard 25 cap with no back counting for early entries. No transfers for a player with less than 2 years eligibility left, the league will manage medical hardship cases. I guess it's time for us SEC guys to start beating the drums for the other leagues to come up to our standards. By the way the only one of these changes that will have much effect on the Gators is the back counting for scholarships. I guess the transfer with one year of eligibility left is something we have done once or twice and Dan Wenger coming in is the second one I know about. By the way as was pointed out numerous times Bernie Machen was one of the leaders to get this done, he of course is the President of UF. SEC Puts Hard Cap Of 25 Signees
:idea: This a great step by the SEC. Now recruits will be vetted on the front end of the process instead of the back end and that should eliminate many problems. Hopefully this will also put pressure on other institutions to follow their lead. Every step that universities take to eliminate non-students from athletic competition puts the pressure to succeed in the classroom where it belongs: on the students.
I agree JO'Co. I hope we have not shot ourselves in the foot with the not being able to count early entries backward if you have space. But hey it is what it is and I guess I won't have to read any more topics about the bad old SEC and recruiting. I imagine those that hate us will find other reasons but so be it. The Gators have been vetting our recruits for years now so we are ahead of the game that way.
Kudos to the SEC presidents for their actions.....but a 25 hard cap does not address to oversigning issue. It does reduce by 3 the amount of oversignings annually. Roster openings are dynamic and change annually....if you only have a senior class with 10 kids and have lost 2 for whatever reason, you only have 12 available schollies, if you sign 25 kids you are still oversigning, but will reduce the number by 3.....
BT, I believe the SEC is also not going to allow you to count players signed in Feb against the previous year, so that will end the oversigning in the SEC. I'm not familiar with the B10 rules, if I'm right and the SEC can't count kids against the previous year (early entries) and they can't take kids with less than 2 years eligibility left (grad students) and they have a hard cap of 25 per class. How does that stack up with the B10 rules?