Thanks W? Get your eyes checked. In the time lapse sequencing you can see most of the country turns purple and black starting Jan. 2009. Who was president then? Remember, as you have pointed out in the past, whoever is on watch gets to take the credit! If I ran the RNC I would make this map my primary campaign commercial for the next 18 months. It speaks for itself. By the way Dave. Wear a sombrero and ride a bike to the eye doc. You will most certainly receive free care. 8)
You really think such dramatic trends like that happen overnight? Geezus that's how you guys keep your voting base that's for sure. None of this stuff happened or was fomented under Georgie's watch....no sir.....uh uh... :roll: Ever hear of catching a sharp falling sword? Listen .....maybe it's easy for you to forget when this crap started but I'll never forget. I'm sure that 2006 will become 2010 for the GOP when the presidential race kicks off next year. :lol:
Wait a minute. I'm just following your lead! Everything was Bush's fault. Bill Clinton, Barney Frank and Chris Dodd and their manipulation of the mortgage market. Clinton passing on an opportunity to get Bin Laden BEFORE 9.11. The dot.com bubble bursting. The dismantling of the intelligence community under Clinton. I could go on and on. It all happened yet when the fruits of these happenings came to light under Bush it was all Bush's fault. Hell, just read your posts on here. I am simply applying your own logic. How does it feel? Do you think your debating idiots here, Dave?
Everyone has a different memory: "The White House's former counterterrorism coordinator blasts President Bush in a television interview and a new book, saying the president ignored warnings about terrorist attacks before 9/11 and has done "a terrible job" battling terrorism since then. "Frankly, I find it outrageous that the president is running for re-election on the grounds that he's done such great things about terrorism," Richard Clarke told CBS' "60 Minutes" in an interview Sunday night. "He ignored it. He ignored terrorism for months, when maybe we could have done something to stop 9/11. Maybe. We'll never know."
And what did Clinton do for years? Remind me again about how it was Bush's fault that Clinton didn't get Bin Laden when he had the chance.
Ever hear of "shovel ready jobs?" How about trillion dollar stimulus package? And of course the "summer of recovery." This is how out of control spending was shoved down our throats by an administration that held themselves out as knowing how to fix the economy. I can see how some bought that crap. I can see how you guys keep your voting base.
Well.....it may be a looonnnnng, long time if ever that jobs and income levels return to the way that Clinton left them in 2001.....( how ya like that one? ). :wink: W has a legacy that's for sure.
Well the Dow hit it's peak under Clinton around Dec 99 and declined till he left office and continued to decline under Bush till around April 2003, when it turned up again and hit a peak about equal to Clinton's '99 in late 2007. Here's my guess if we could transport back to 2000 when Bush took over and the down was on it's run down, you'd blame Bush right out of the box for the downturn in the Dow, when we said we inherited a declining Dow from Clinton you'd probably ignore the facts that it was declining when Bush took over and say that it was higher under Clinton than it was under Bush so there for the decline in Bushes first 3 years was his doing. Doubt if you'd give Bush or the Rep credit for the rise from 2003 either.
Clinton did enjoy boom times that for sure and he even presided over the last surplus as I recall. But when you look at the meteoric rise in spending under Bush along with the end economic result of his 8 year tenure and the legacy it leaves behind it is impossible to forgive and forget and not so easy for any rational thinking that completely absolves him from what we have going on today with jobs and housing. No rational thinking will allow it but in today's politics winning and revenge is everything.....rational thinking isn't possible.
You say that with such conviction accompanied by such derision for Bush's deficit years. Can I assume by inference - if you are consistent - that you are unhappy with the deficits under the the Obama administration.............both the existing deficits that he inherited, of course, and the unrestrained spending he originated to lead us farther down the path toward huge deficits?
Absolutely.....I am not turning a deaf ear or a blind eye towards those that have concerns about the ever increasing deficit. I have a huge beef however with those that just politicize it for gain without ackowledging the high spending patterns that obviously had already developed under Bush and also some of the root causes of it other than those dastardly "tax and spend" liberals......blah.....blah....blah..... Comparing Bush to Clinton for instance makes Bush look like the one who spent like a drunken sailor.
:idea: Clinton had a Republican Congress led by Newt Gingrich who kept throwing his budgets in the trash. Clinton himself never submitted a balanced budget proposal, nor did he create a "surplus."
Bush's highest two years of expenditures were his last two when he had a GOP Congress. What happened there? Were there favors to pay off perhaps???
:roll: Holy cow Dave...PAY ATTENTION! The Democrats controlled both houses of Congress in Mr. Bush's final two years. As you pointed out, that's when spending and the economy spun out of control.
Right you are JoCo.....typed in haste obviously. But when you look at W's 8 years he immediately spent more than Clinton and it continually climbed every year during his presidency up closer and closer to the levels of his last two years. In other words he handed Obama a huge budget with very reduced revenues due to the severe recession. A budget deficit made to order.