I'm just wondering how waiting til the last minute to let him know that he no longer has an offer is in the best interest of the student athlete? :?
Too funny....perhaps that would get them an honorable mention in the amateur division in some parts of the country!?
BT, Too Funny? Hey this is one way to not oversign. Just pull the offer at the last minute. Then it doesn't show up in any table that can be posted on the internet and you don't even have to worry about using a medical scholarship later on either. 8)
USC <t>Well USC doesn't care about any sanctions. If they can't take any more than 15 next year they'll take 45 or so this year. They are up to 30 for this class so far and they may not be done. Some kinda fuzzy math I guess...I can't figure it that's for sure.</t>
They are playing the ultimate oversigning game. They will have 25 (max) for 2011 and 8 guys that are EE's and count against the 2010 class. At least that's what I've read. Also read that the appeal has delayed the sanctions that would have started this year and instead will start next year. Also shows how powerful a recruiting machine USC is, I mean with all the bad pub, the sanctions, no bowl games, etc they still pull in a top 5 class. Kiffin might not be a great coach but he's getting great talent.
USC <t>Well let's hope the NCAA doesn't overturn the ruling and this all catches up with them. That class of 33 players may look good now but they are going to have to do a lot of redshirting and hope they don't have a bunch of transfers later. <br/> <br/> I still could have sworn that the NCAA says you can only have 25 total LOIs signed on signing day.</t>
Tim I don't think that the EEs file NOIs. They're already in the school. And as Terry pointed out, they count toward the 2010 class.
Terry, if I recall correctly, the bigger problem with Mustain was that Charlie was going to offer Clausen and Jimmy was coming in early (enrolled in Jan of '07), so that was the last scholly of the 2006 class. I remember seeing a picture showing Mustain wearing the "Play Like A Champion Today" towel at practice for the 2006 Army All-America game. It was kind of pathetic.
8) re: Mitch Mustain " I wonder why the USC legal team hadn't posted bail, don't think it was that he lost to ND do you? " If he had lost to UCLA too, the LAPD would have brought him in DOA...
Too funny is right.....small change in some parts of the country where offers are routinely dangled and often yanked for no reason at all! Just imagine the shenanigans that could go down if one often finds oneself in a position of having to get rid of 10 or so scholarship athletes because one made more promises/offers than one is able to keep......I'm sure there will be alot more scrutiny than is comfortable for many as the march towards 85 in many college towns begins. I'm sure the guys on Oversigning.Com will keep us posted.... No doubt the nefarious recruiting practices of the Big 10 were squarely in Dr. Machen's crosshairs and compelled him to take the lead in speaking out as strongly as he has...... :roll:
BT I hope you are not suggesting that what Purdue did was no big deal? It was perfectly legal of course, but IMHO very unethical.
Not at all TOK...it IS a big deal. If that is the whole story I agree it is very unethical and further believe and agree with Dr. Machen that activities that can create the potential for situations in which these kinds of things occur should be stopped.... I was just referencing the fact that yanking/not honoring offers happens far more regularly in some areas than others....here is Mark Richt commenting on issues he faces with "out of state" schools and some of their regular practices....I don't believe that he is talking about Purdue or other Big 10 schools and just judging by the numbers, my guess is that they're probably closer to home.....I could be wrong, but I don't think so....
I had never heard of that term before the last 5 years or so, but it's definitely worked it's way into the lexicon of recruiting. I know that Oklahoma puts out a ton of offers and Jim Harbaugh also put out a lot of offers at Stanford. Mack actually won't give out many offers unless the kid is ready to commit on the spot. He's got his first Jr. Day coming up soon and I can tell you if things go as they usually do he'll have quite a few commits on that weekend. But inorder to offically get an offer you have to commit then. If you don't commit you leave campus without an offer.
Ok, here I go...haven't had really enough info on this to make an intelligent comment...and still don't...but might as well jump in because nobody else has all the info either. So far all we have is the story from this young man's HS coach (and, of course, Uban Meyer's opinion). Purdue has been very limited about what they can say about their decision or this recruit's situation...and they remain limited until he signs with somebody. The criticism of this situation on Purdue blogs and discussion lists has been rather harsh, and the consensus is (and I agree) that if Hope pulled the rug out from under this kid and acted strongly against his best interests, then Hope ought to go. However, I just smell a rat, somewhere. It would seem that this wasn't quite the last minute yank that it is portrayed as...apparently the offer was withdrawn in December. Purdue has been devastated by identical injuries, and therefore has had quite a bit of experience in dealing with them (and their recurrences.) Several Purdue players had the same identical surgery, and went back to playing (too soon?) and suffered a recurrence. Reading between the lines, it sounds a bit like Purdue was trying to get the kid to rehab longer, and he didn't want to. Maybe they even tried to encourage the other kind of surgery (don't know.) On one blog an orthopedic surgeon said that it was the wrong kind of surgery to be done on anyone planning on playing Div I football. At any rate...right or wrong...it seems like there was a contraversy regarding his treatment and rehab, and Purdue wasn't happy with the decisions made. It sounds like they tried to talk him into gray shirting a year because they thought it was the right thing to do for his injury. Maybe it's all BS and we did him wrong...I hope not. Here is the best article I've found.
Good article Stu. Not sure it clears Hope in my mind but at least it gives another perspective. Also I never thought Hope should be fired over it, maybe he and the AD might have needed a conversation on how to best handle these situations. I also must point out that had King been 100% healthy and flipped to some other school late in the recruiting process, it would have been treated as business as usual. Kids are given a pass, schools aren't.