The BCS got it right

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  1. Motorcity Gator

    Motorcity Gator Well-Known Member

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    Or so says Greg Doyel on CBS Sportsline.

    Sure TCU and Wisky are left out.....( nothing that couldn't be fixed by an MCG supported Plus One format ) but you have to admit that this year Oregon vs. Auburn is a great game and never would have happened before the BCS.....witness unbeaten Neb and Mich in 1997 kissing their sister for the title.

    From the article:

    "Want to appreciate your spouse more today than you did yesterday? Compare him or her to the gross slob down the street.

    That was the old bowl system -- the gross slob down the street. That's what the college football season went home to every night.

    Now we've got the BCS. Most of you hate it, but most of you love Oregon vs. Auburn.

    Hate to tell you, but Oregon vs. Auburn is the BCS."
     
  2. BuckeyeT

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    :lol:

    At least according to Doyel.....even though a broken clock gets it right twice a day, it would still be a good idea to get it fixed.
     
  3. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    I wouldn't disagree that Oregon/Auburn is the game that everybody wants to see this year. I think that if it were Oregon/TCU or Auburn/TCU there would a lot of people who would feel that wasn't the match up we "deserved".

    As for the rest of the lineup, it's a farce for the most part and I personally blame the conferences for screwing everything up with their guaranteed contracts with the various minor bowls. I think we would have more interesting matchups if it were every man for himself and competition amongst bowls for the teams.
     
  4. Motorcity Gator

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    The point he is making BT is what I have been saying.....that the BCS beats the hell out what used to exist and it's champion has the possibility of having played another team of similar qualifications and there is less chance of splitting a title like happened in 1997.

    I do think however that a plus one would be a marked improvement that would still preserve the bowls.

    That would be essentially a 4 team playoff and everything else that people enjoy about the College football regular season and conference championships would still be intact.

    I know...I know....there are many people who just can't stand not having a full fledged playoff so any kind of system other than that will not satisfy them.

    I would enjoy one aspect of a playoff system for certain and that is the furor that would develop every single season about which team had to go and play at the other team's stadium and why.
     
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    Sounds like what the buggy whip manufacturers said to Henry Ford....we beat the hell out of what used to exist so don't waste your time, there is no need for improvement......nonsense.
     
  6. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    I think it does do a good job of getting the match up that most people feel is the one that we should have. Now that doesn't mean there is 100% agreeance, and maybe Wisc or TCU or any of the 1 loss teams could feel the are as deserving or more so than either of the teams in matchup.

    I don't like the +1 game myself. I'd much rather have what we have or a playoff nothing in between. Not to mention I think anything short of a 16 team playoff is worse than what we have.
     
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    I agree with you about the rest of the lineups but that's the price we pay for having a Championship game.
     
  8. Motorcity Gator

    Motorcity Gator Well-Known Member

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    Two things would cause an annual donnybrook:

    Why not teams #17 thru 25??

    Why should Ohio State have to play at Florida when each have identical records?? I can see BT going ballistic over that one..... :lol:
     
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    Crying towels please!
    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hnvUeN05EESHFz67nNyFuYsW3mNw?docId=83b064615db640e08db07bcd5bf71144
     
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    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    Well I'd agree that there would always be somebody who thinks they got screwed...hell even with 64 teams the Final Four has teams who think they got screwed. Now with the play in games there are still teams who think they got screwed. Only a playoff that included everybody would leave everybody happy temporarily...till the seedings came out.

    But with 16 teams there is plenty of room for all the big conf champions plus current teams like Boise/TCU and independents. In a case like this year for the B10 and 2008 for the B12 their top 3 teams would get in and have a shot at the title. As far as Ohio State going to Fla to play I have no idea what you are talking about, unless you are referring to playing the first round at the site of the higher seed? In that case if UF was 1-8 and Ohio State was 9-16 I doubt if you'd see OSU fans complaining, although if the situations were reversed an UF had to go north and play OSU in the type of weather you saw Monday night in N.E. I'd bet you'd here some complaining from UF.
     
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    Re: B10 sacraficing the Rose Bowl for the greater good...oh puleeze. The B10 and the Pac10 refused to go along with the rest of college football back when we started down the current path because the Rose Bowl meant too much for them to give it up and they only caved when they realized that while it had been since 1968 when they had a Nat'l Champion, that it would be never as long as there was a game that was a desiginated NC game and they didn't participate. So they "gave in for the good of college football"....yeah right.
     
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    Ditto that TOK.....for 100 years we have made decisions to compete with the games elite programs anywhere to challenge for supremacy in college football.....there are many others that are willing to compete in the same manner and for that they are to be commended.....there are also those that for whatever reason, have chosen not to.....funny that somebody would suggest that we complain about taking a road trip to compete.
     
  13. Motorcity Gator

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    Terry....and what criteria decides such a critical ranking ( to the playoffs )?

    Strength of schedule? Oh...boy....here we go.... :lol:

    Yeah BT.....while UF was on the road playing at ACC Championship finalist Florida State... OSU was home playing.....Eastern Michigan?

    UF also played the MAC Champion and bowl team from the Big East.

    But of course UF had patsys like Bama in Tuscaloosa too.

    Give me a break Buckeye..... :roll: :lol:
     
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    :lol: :lol:

    Remind me again the most difficult non-conference game Florida - at it's own discretion - has scheduled outside the state of Florida? And the year or decade or generation or century, whichever is easier for ya? Good luck with that one...... 8)
     
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    How many non-con games has Ohio State played away from Columbus in the past 16 years of any note? Seriously......not too many. In that time UF has played 8 games in Tallahassee and at least one in Miami.

    And....you have to count FSU because that limits UF's ability to play others and I am certain Jeremy Foley and the alumni base would want that to happen and would make it happen.

    Otherwise.....when was the last time the Buckeye schedule was within 10 spots in schedule rankings to Florida's??

    I'll bet never...... :wink:
     
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    We do it as regularly as a home-home contest can be scheduled against other major powers - which is every other year and have forever and will continue.....

    Every other year we, and many other schools, make a conscious decision to compete against another major power far from home.

    We actually get on a plane, oftentimes subjecting ourselves to jet lag;

    often travelling to a new time zone to a city/campus nobody has ever set foot in;

    stay in hotels nobody has ever stayed in and eat food in restaurants in which nobody has eaten;

    travel to a venue nobody has ever seen;

    play on a field nobody has ever played on;

    in conditions nobody has ever experienced;

    often under lights nobody has played under and;

    met in lockerrooms nobody has ever met in prior;

    to experience fan bases and foreign traditions far from home and;

    play in games at times we typically don't play;

    against teams and coaching staffs we have never faced.

    Familiarity breeds comfort. Comfort typically breeds performance close to expectation and capabilty......

    Don't compare regular short jaunts up to Tallahassee and down to Miami to cross-country once in a career trips to Austin, LA and the like. It's not remotely close to the same......continue if you like. There is no reason for me to reply, it's all been said....over and over and over again.
     
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    It's all about SOS and respect in the polls.

    Florida fares well in the beauty contest.....Ohio State ain't as pretty.

    Maybe that's why I'm fine with the BCS.....and you are not.
    :wink:

    Carry on with that Big 10 schedule and we'll carry on with our SEC schedule and Florida State.
     
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    :roll:

    That is not true. We are not trying to crown the team that plays the most difficult schedule. If that were true, Notre Dame would be playing Texas A&M for the title......they are not.

    What we are trying to do is to determine who is the best team all things considered......to be sure national championship trophies are awarded each and every year and I am unaware of one being awarded because somebody's SOS was deemed most difficult......it's vastly more important what you do on the field than who you do it to.....

    As far as my Buckeyes are concerned, if we play well and hold up our end of the bargain, in my lifetime, the pollsters have never hesitated to give us all the respect that we need.....this year and all prior years included. If you're waiting in anxious anticipation of that changing, I wouldn't recommend holding your breath..... :lol:
    Glad to see that you're happy with the outcome of this years beauty contest......that you could even make that statement with a straight face in light of the relative on the field performance and results of the two schools says all you need to know about the value of beauty contests.....your Gators were gorgeous this year! Enjoy.... :lol:
     
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    It's about....opportunity....BT.

    The opportunity to prove you have the best team at the end....on the BCS Championship field.

    The Gators have had no problem gaining that opportunity over teams with the same or better records......much to the chagrin of some.

    Feel fortunate your team has not been one of those teams.
     
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    It would seem that they have more important issues that they need to address.....both on the field and off. I could be wrong, but I don't think so....enjoy.
    There have always been a great number of things about my team about which I have felt fortunate for my entire life and my father before me.....and that is not likely to change in my lifetime or yours.....being amongst the elite for 100 years has its benefits. I would try to explain it to you, but there is no way you could understand.....carry on. 8)