If (big if) there is a three-way tie involving MSU, Wiscy, and OSU...the tie-breaker for the Rose Bowl goes to the highest BCS ranking (currently Wiscy). First tie breaker is head-to-head but OSU and MSU don't play each other so that goes out the window.
The BCS system.....IS.....the system. People don't like it.....but that's the way it is. We can pi** and moan about it.....dispute it.....try to disprove it or ignore what the BCS experts are saying but it is still standing at the end of the day and it's Champions will be the NCAA recognized football champions for that season.
The NCAA does not now, nor has it ever recognized a national champion in Division I, Football Bowl Subdivision (FBS) football....hence the term "mythical" national champion....
For my money the BCS system is the best system by far that we have had that at least tries to inject some thought and analysis into the final champion selection. The BCS system mandates a 1 vs. 2 game no matter what conference is obligated to what bowl. In the days before the BCS the pollsters most of the time were left analyzing how team A beat team D better than team B was able to beat team C so therefore team A must be the champ. Nevermind that team A and team B should have played each other to decide the matter.
True that....but the system chooses a 1 and a 2 based upon subjective factors that include among other things historical - as in previous years - performance. What other system of selecting a champion in any sport at any level does that? It's absurd.....
Games played this season are historical in a sense.....they are past tense. In rating teams and conferences you have to go by what has been occurring most recently. In the last 4 BCS Title game three SEC teams have excelled and won. And as much as I distrust the computers they do add to the BCS ranking of the opponents left on the Bama schedule.
I wonder how you would feel if you hadn't had an SEC team win a BCS championship and maybe not even be in the game. At one time the SEC went 12 years from 1980 with Georgia till Alabama in 1992 between AP Nat'l Championships. If right now we were in the middle of a streak like that would you be so sure.
The SEC is 6-0 all time in BCS title games and UF in 1996 hammered #1 ranked FSU in a bowl game only two years before the start of the BCS. The last 4 BCS title games saw the Big 12 and Big 10 each go 0-2. Granted Boise and TCU may have a case but their conferences are weak even if they themselves appear not to be. The PAC 10 is about to get it's chance at the SEC. Should be a good one.
I agree.....last year is irrelevant. Your Gators are only a shell of what they were last year.....last year, PSU was superior to LSU and Northwestern arguably at least on par with Auburn and Ohio State much better than Oregon and Wisconsin and South Carolina got their ass kicked by UConn - now why again do we care what happened last year?.....in college players, teams turnover rapidly as do their fortunes. To think for a second that what happened last year should have a bearing on selecting this years champion is absurd at best....please, that's just ridiculous.
Particularly egregious this year Tom after what Boise did to Oregon and TCU last year and given the only real objective data points in the process - the non-pre-judged computers - have the Big 12 as the highest rated conference in each and every case. The process is a joke and those schools are getting hosed.....
In essence what MCG is saying that the SEC Champ should be penciled in as one of the 2 teams in the BCS. The others have to fight to see who gets to play the SEC. More than 2 undefeated teams...if one of them is the SEC then they are in for sure. 1 loss SEC team, should be ahead of most undefeated teams. etc...bottom line is if there is any doubt, it's the SEC team that should be chosen over all others.
So did Herbstreidt last night and several others on the BCS show. What sports channel do you guys watch? Fox News??? :lol: :lol: You guys act like I invent this stuff.
Well for one thing this discussion will have a winner and a loser in the end. If Alabama wins out and is selected over undefeated teams then you win...if they aren't then I win.
Which is the equivalent of having my buddies down here in NC telling me in terms of basketball that the ACC Champ should be penciled in as one of the two teams in the NCAA Finals - without playing and in some cases IN SPITE OF PLAYING - the logical equivalent to MCG's position, both equally absurd, contrary to all rational thought, available evidence and without parallel anywhere in the sporting world. Nice....
not in every case, surely not this one.....nobody is above spewing nonsense in order to serve their self-interest. ESPN's interest is to stir the pot and generate viewers - those that love and those that hate - they are ambivalent so long as the viewers tune in so the advertisers can pay....much of what you see on those shows is scripted to achieve those goals....trust me. That said, just because it is said on ESPN - by anybody - does not make it gospel or else Les Miles would be in Ann Arbor amongst other things....the current process is irrational, unreasonable, without precedent in any sport at any level and serves to reward undeserving programs at the expense of those more deserving.....there is no justification for not having a playoff to decide a champion. That is how champions are decided in sport.....except BCS college football?
I see that Jake Locker is out for the Washington game with Oregon. He could have gone Pro after the last season, he would have been a likely high draft choice. He no doubt expected to have a great Sr. year, while I doubt if that included Wash being undefeated, but I'm sure it was for UW to have an excellent year go to a bowl game and for him to be in the Heisman race (which he was to start the year). Now he's been banged up all year, Washington is a bad team and he's nowhere to be found on the Heisman list. Plus his stock keeps slipping on Kipers big board, he's still on it but at one time was in the top 5 now is #18. Not exactly how he envisioned the season.
Since the BCS has added the computer rankings and made it mandatory that you win your conference in order to be invited I think the system has improved somewhat. It's not perfect and neither would a plus one system be perfect and in today's big time college football world I can see teams howling in disgust if not distrust when they are seeded lower than those whom they think they are better than and having to then play a true road game in a playoff. Rarely does the NCAA BB tourney have a true home game for anybody ( playing on their own court ) but a college football playoff would certainly have true home games and I'll bet the noise would be defeaning when seedings were announced for something as controversial as that would be. As it is now.....you have those scenarios but it is scheduled.....like Auburn at Alabama this season.