Boise picking up steam with 8 first place votes: Florida drops 4 places....lowest ranking in probably almost two years.....but much deserved: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/polls/ap/?eref=sinav
While Boise State was immensely impressive in the way they came back for the victory, IMO the jury is out until the entire season plays out and we learn what kind of a team VT has this year. The game announcers kept talking about how young, inexperienced, and mistake-prone VT's defense was. Yet because of Boise's dramatic comeback win vs. this defense, they get 8 first place votes? If VT runs the table or comes close to doing so, give Boise the credit that is due them. If Boise hammers the rest of its schedule, and VT turns out to be an average to mediocre team, then IMO talk of inclusion in the BCS takes a different turn. We'll see. It was only week 1. Edit: I intended to refer to inclusion in the BCS championship game. There's no question in my mind that an undefeated Boise would deserve being in a BCS bowl game, regardless of how VT's season turns out.
Yeah a long way to go for sure, last year Boise had some close games late in the year that hurt them in the polls. But they certainly have a good track for another BCS bowl game.
Boise looked very good to me. Chances are that if there are other undefeateds....and I think OSU is the one with the best shot to do that......that they will have some close calls also.
Yeah bounces all have to go your way for an undefeated season, look at how close Alabama came to losing that game to Auburn. They could have lost that one and still won the SECCG of course but it probably would have knocked them out of the BCS Champ game and put TCU in the game. Long way to go and there will be upsets.
Opponent Location Time (MST) Virginia Tech at Fed Ex Field 6:00 pm Wyoming at Laramie, WY 6:00 pm Oregon State Bronco Stadium TBA New Mexico State * at Las Cruces, NM 6:00 pm Toledo Bronco Stadium 6:00 pm San Jose State * at San Jose, CA 6:00 pm Louisiana Tech * Bronco Stadium 6:00 pm Hawai'i * Bronco Stadium Noon Idaho * at Moscow, ID 7:00 pm Fresno State * Bronco Stadium 7:30 pm Nevada * at Reno, NV 8:15 pm Utah State * Bronco Stadium 1:00 pm I want to give them all the credit they are due, they are very talented. But everytime I look at their schedule compared to schedules of the Big 10, SEC, Pac 10 and others it is hard to compare the week in week out grind fest that others have to survive.
I agree Ralph. But if we do not let one of these guys in when they seem deserving otherwise we are headed for a playoff and I personally think it would not be for the good of the game. Boise....has fared well also in BCS bowls as did Utah. The PAC 10 took care of Utah for us. Regarding Utah and better schedules......I have said before and I say again that when Penn State played a lesser schedule in their pre-Big 10 days they were a national factor every season and that has obviously not been the case very often since they joined the conference. I think the very same thing will happen to Utah and would happen to Boise as well if they joined the Big 12 for instance.
They are like Gonzaga in basketball in some respects. Play in a mid-major conference but always have a pretty guady record and more than hold their own when they play the big boys. They are good for college football. I hope this year if they don't make the BCS championship game they don't stick them in the same bowl with whoever wins the Mtn West. It's more interesting when Cinderella gets to play one of the big boys and knocks them off like Utah did to Alabama or Boise did to OU.
I recall all those years of the big 2 and the little 8 in the Big Ten. Then there was FSU and how they dominated the ACC. All of a sudden Boise St. has a schedule like no others have had? ....and then there was that BYU championship team.... :!:
That's pretty much the talk everywhere. There is a long Boise thread on Inside Texas where they are given a lot of respect for what they have accomplished for how well coached they are and how tough they are when they have time to get healthy and prepare for you. But as Jack O'Brien once said it was the grind of the big games that really hurt you. After a particularily hard fought Tenn/ND game in the past he observed that both teams were pretty beat up after the game and didn't play nearly as well the next week. It's the grind of playing a schedule dominated by BCS conference foes vs playing 2 or 3 BCS teams and the rest midmajors. It means that you can get by with less depth.
I agree 200% with this and I always have. That's why I think a playoff would be a mistake. I think if you had a month of playoffs in CFB after the regular season ended you would have plenty of worn down, gimpy injured talent on the field. As it is now the BCS title game participants get 6 weeks of R&R....enough time to heal the small battle wounds and tired muscles before the Big One. If a small conference team like Boise was in a major BCS conference they would have just finished their non-con scheduled blockbuster game ( Va Tech ) and then would wade immediately into a tougher conference slate without many real breathers. A tougher task for sure.
1984 AP Final Post Bowl Poll 1. Brigham Young 2. Washington 3. Florida 4. Nebraska 5. Boston College 6. Oklahoma 7. Oklahoma State 8. SMU 9. UCLA 10. USC 11. South Carolina 12. Maryland 13. Ohio State 14. Auburn 15. Louisiana State 16. Iowa 17. Florida State 18. Miami (Fla.) 19. Kentucky 20. Virginia 1984 UPI Final Post Bowl Poll 1. Brigham Young 2. Washington 3. Nebraska 4. Boston College 5. Oklahoma State 6. Oklahoma 7. Florida 8. SMU 9. USC 10. UCLA 11. Maryland 12. Ohio State 13. South Carolina 14. Auburn 15. Iowa 16. Louisiana State 17. Virginia 18. West Virginia 19. Kentucky (tie) Florida State How #1 and #2 went that year from pre-bowl to final
Top Matchup in the bowl season that year was (by pre-bowl rankings) #2 OU vs #4 Washington in the Orange Bowl, I don't see where the #3 (pre-bowl) team played in a bowl I wonder if 1984 was a year that the Big 10 still had their old bowl rules and #2 was a Big 10 team. So maybe just maybe Washington was the best team that year. But the couldn't have won the Pac10 that year since USC went to the Rose Bowl ranked #18 and beat #6 Ohio State. It must have been a crazy year.
After looking at the list of bowls, I was wrong on the B10 they had lots of Bowl teams so #3 couldn't have been a B10 team. Was Fla #3 pre-bowl....I don't see them in a bowl, were they on probation?
I think Wa was the team that should have won it because UF was already in NCAA doodoo by the time the bowls came around. UF was probably the best team and did win the NC in the New York Times poll and some others but was more crooked at the time than USC. BYU certainly was NOT the best team and proved it vs. Michigan.