Apparently Maukrice Pouncey is alleged to have taken money from an Agent between the SEC Championship game loss to Alabama and the Sugar Bowl. Gator player may have taken money
I just started a topic about South Carolina that is mentioned in the last sentence in the article linked by Terry:
So far just allegations and denials. I remember when that was all the NCAA needed.....nevermind proving anything....to royally screw an alleged offending team.
DAMN DOG....I GOT MINE, DID YOU GET YOURS? :lol: :twisted: Courtesy of "Made ya look" productions....
The NCAA does want it wants to do! That fact never sinks in until they come after the home team. Corey and I have been making this point for several years now.
I know....it amazes me that people could stand afar over the years and throw stones all the while the NCAA was sneaking up behind their back with a hatchet.
What year was it that Spurrier had to kick several players off the team for the bowl game (Orange?) for taking money from agents?
North Carolina now has several players who may have a problem with taking money from agents, Marvin Austin and Greg Little's names keep coming up in articles. Both may be lost for the season. As Tom pointed out there may be a South Carolina player as well. Agents are a scourge in college football, I don't blame any of the coaches at UF, UNC or So. Carolina for their kids doing what they clearly know was wrong. If any of the allegations turns out to be true, you can bet the agents and their runners will have enticed the kids with the old we'll put it in your Uncle's cousins name and nobody will ever know or some such crap as that. The coach has no chance other than the meetings that he has with the team about the rules, which every coach will do at least once a year if not more. I know several states have laws that provide severe penalties for agents who induce college athletes to break the rules, but they aren't stupid and they most likely use a maze of runners that leave them with insulation from the act.
You can bet Meyer and Foley have drummed this into their effing heads over and over. That's all the coaches can do.......except kick a player off if the coach knows for certain it has gone down. And Meyer would be the first to kick that player off the team for a known infraction such as that. WRT to the Sugar Bowl......UF kicked the snot out of Cinci...a beatin they won't soon forget and not one that can be amended in the heart and memory anyway in spite of the asterisk by the results were that to occur. I have a little stake in this as my ex-GM at my previous employer is the one who stood by my desk with two boxes as I emptied it out after 23 years of service to the company....feeling pretty shell shocked as I did so. He is a fan of.....and a graduate of UC.
Aw most of you guys really don't have a clue how stupid the NCAA can be. (kp excepted of course!) Back during the Aggie's last run-in with the NCAA (mid 90's), they repeatedly stated that the A&M athletic dept was a model of compliance, and did all that was possible... and then dropped the "lack of institutional control" hammer on us. :x I have ZERO respect for anything the NCAA does. It just depends on who happens to be running the show, and how they feel about your school to determine what will happen. Agents should be Hung by their toes from the stadium lights at whatever schools they trespass!!! :twisted:
KP excepted only? You obviously were not around in the mid 90s when I was still pretty PO'd at the NCAA for their treatment of 1990 Florida. Still am PO'd and I share your lack of respect for anything their compliance office does and you have never.....ever......seen me make disparaging remarks about teams in NCAA trouble. I may make a disparaging remark about the team.....or their coach....( think Kiffin at USC ) but not as it relates to the NCAA trying to lynch them.
My point here was that the NCAA said in PUBLISHED reports that we had a compliance dept that was WAY ahead of the rest of the country (Lots of schools were only just starting to make a Comp Dept), and then turned around to blast us to PIECES. We were banned from POST SEASON, TV, lost players, and schollies. All of that after we were told there was nothing more the department could have done. Not saying others weren't pissed when the fickle hand of the NCAA was waved at them... but I bet it wasn't while they were patting you on the back at the same time!
Alabama DT Marcel Darius is the next guy in the NCAA barrell. He supposedly has had contact with an agent. ESPN said Attending a party thrown by an agent seems like it should be a minor infraction, but if you remember that Oklahoma State kid who was suspended for the whole year over something similar. He of course supposedly lied to the NCAA when they first contacted him about his relationship with an Agent and that was why he got suspended. It has to be very frustrating for coaches to tell kids not to have contact with agents, to report any agent who tries to contact to them so they can handle things, and yet the kids ignore the coach and no doubt think they can beat the system and get some money and have some fun in the mean time.
Good take on it Terry. This allegedly happened after the SECCG and before the bowl game. I am certain Meyer did not do anything to make it worse with the NCAA so all it could mean for the Gators is a forfeit vs. Cinci which as I say doesn't mean squat because all UC fans......and they know who I am talking about.......all UC fans know their football program is crap compared to UF's.
That's the college spirit! Whatever it takes!! Win at all costs!!! It's only cheatin' if you get caught!!!!
A lot of states have laws regarding agents and illegal contacts with student athletes. These laws allow the schools to sue the player and his agent for damages. But in reality I doubt if any school has ever done that due to the fact that it would probably be used against them in recruiting.
I see that Pouncey has denied recieving the benefits. It certainly could be true, but it's also possible that the Agent isn't stupid enough to give him 100K to put into his bank account. I would imagine that the agents are pretty cagy with how and to whom the money/benefits are transferred.
George.....I don't get your message. If he signed....it's a forfeit plain and simple. It's only cheating if UF covered it up to protect that bowl win in the historical column. The player involved was a legit player....recruited legally and always a straight up kid while at UF except for his last two weeks.....potentially anyway if true.