Notre Dame vs UConn.

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  1. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    It's Sr. day for the Irish, hopefully the team will be able to get fired up to send the Sr's out with a win. I doubt if "saving" Charlies job will be a factor, if that was then they would have beaten Navy and Pitt.

    It will be interesting of course to see how Zach Frazier performs, he of course was the odd man out back after the spring of 2007, as Charlie settled on Clausen, Sharpley and D.Jones (future LB). He hasn't exactly lit up the scoreboard at UConn, he's had to deal with some injury problems and UConn is a run first type of team anyway. But I'm sure he'd like to show Charlie he made a mistake. I did read an article that indicated he still has friends on the team and that he has no hard feelings. His coach said that's all fine and good but he needs to go out there and beat those friends! :)

    Everybody keeps saying that Charlie will be retained at 8-4, so this is another do or die game for Charlie.
     
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    Does this remind anyone else of last year's Senior Day game vs Syracuse? Struggling in November going into the last home game.
     
  3. Tim Gentry

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    <t>All right...Somehow we score more points and the D helps out on this one. We win...that's all......nice win for seniors.<br/>
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    Maybe this loss to UCON is a blessing in disguise? Charlie has to go.

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    How about now?
     
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    Wow, the way this game started I thought Notre Dame was going to blow them out.

    I do think this probably ice's Charlies time with Notre Dame and while this is painful I think that there are enough good coaches out there that the Irish fans are going to be happy.

    I remember how dark things seemed when we lost to Miss State in 2004. However that iced Zook's firing and while it was painful that season, the five seasons since have been good since we got the right coach.

    I'm pulling for you guys to get a good coach, as long as it isn't Meyer.
     
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    <t>Really much to say except this one sad sack program that badly needs a big kick in the a-- from a coach that can motivate players. This performance today was just a re-run of so many this year.<br/>
    That defense sickens me the way they lay down versus the run.<br/>
    The guy that gets the gig next year has his work cut out for him because he has no talent to work with on that side of the football. With the exception of a couple of players I wish they all were seniors.<br/>
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    How about Sergio Brown and his personal foul that led to a TD. That guy should have been benched for the afternoon but no he was out one series and back in. Speaks volumns.<br/>
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    Hide the dogs for the beating coming next week that will signal the official search for a real head coach.</t>
     
  8. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    Turn out the lights, the party's over. I don't want to take anything away from UConn, but other than Frazer they have no players that we would have been interested in coming out of HS. They have no class that was ranked in the top 10 by recruiting experts, they have a ND reject at QB. They have no 5* players. It's just too much to take that we can lose to those guys. We don't have UF or Alabama talent, but he have better talent than 6-5.

    Of course this was the nail in Charlies coffin, I fear that a repeat of the end of the 1985 season. If you remember, Faust was asked if he would like to resign after his 4th season ( I read his book that's how I know) and told that it was very unlikely he would be retained after his contract was up in 1985. He said he wanted to finish his contract, our AD was under instructions to honor the contract. So the 1985 season was a disaster, and the team was in the tank by the time they reached the final game on the road at Miami. Jimmy Johnson beat us like a red headed stepchild and rubbed our noses in it at the end. I think Harbaugh hates ND and will thrash us unmercifully next weekend. It will be ugly.
     
  9. Terry O'Keefe

    Terry O'Keefe Well-Known Member Administrator

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    Oh yeah I was totally shocked that before the game that Swarbrick offered that he hadn't made his decision and wouldn't till after the Stanford game. He also said that he has not been working "back channels" and has had no contact with anyone about a coach search. If that is true then he is derelict in his duty. Last year he was so close to firing Weis, and while he might have had hopes for this year, if he truly hasn't made any plans as to who might be interested and stuff like that then we are doomed.
     
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    <r>two words....Brian Kelly <E:mad:</E></r>
     
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    You guys are where we were at mid season last year. Better days are ahead for your program.
     
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    And your qualifications for making that statement are.....?

    This kind of ignorant **** makes me sick.
     
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    Terry, you realize that if ND is talking with another coach whether or not it's directly or through "back channels" it is tampering and could subject ND to a civil suit for damages? And you want our AD to admit that he's tampering with some other schools coach? I expect those type of posts over on ND Nation.
     
  14. Terry O'Keefe

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    What I meant is that I can't believe he even addressed that situation publically. He's been very consistent, coaching will be evaluated at the end of the season. Why would he even offer up that he has had no "back channel" contacts with any coach. If he's doing his job he's been working and evaluating prospects building his "short list". Sort of like the UF Pres suddenly had Urban Meyer under contract, well he'd actually had the deal worked out long before it became public knowledge. Maybe Swarbrick doesn't have anybody he's gone that far with at this point. But if he doesn't have a list of guys who he has some idea about the I'm disappointed. It's not like this situation has come out of the blue. But sure I get that he wouldn't tell the world he's been working back channels, I just don't understand why he'd even answer it one way or the other.

    Your pal the Ignorant ****.
     
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    I think Weis has known he's gone for days. And you're not as dumb as others might think, Doc. :)
     
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    Swarbrick has had no contact with any agents or friends of other coaches. He has said so publicly. Now if other "unofficial" agents of the university have had "unoffical" discussions with "unofficial" agents of other coaches, then Swarbricks statement is accurate.

    And as to Meyer, the Fla. president had been the pres. at Utah when Meyer was there. The AD at Fla. could have truthfully stated that he had had no contact with UM but the fact is the deal had been done with contact between "old friends."

    Do you think that Swarbrick would have had more "positive" responses if he said, we've been doing absolutely nothing?
     
  17. Terry O'Keefe

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    I would have suggested he answer any question with I will evaluate the situation at the end of the season and make my recommendations. He didn't have to say anything more, if he has in fact been working the back channels whether having friends of friends inquire of friends of friends of the coaches or using a crystal ball he's now a liar. Sort of like Nick Saban after being badgered by the press finally said he would not be the coach at Alabama or Urban Meyer consistently saying he is only focused on winning the next game at Utah when in fact he'd already been negotiating with UF and had the contracts in place.

    I wonder how Fr. Joyce ended up with Lou Holtz to introduce right after the last game of the 1985 season? I know Lou had a out clause, but I don't remember Fr. Joyce asking for permission to interview Lou, just the end for Faust and the next thing you know Lou was the coach. I guess he called his AD after the Miami game and then called Lou, lucky Lou was available to take the call.
     
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    <r>Couple of comments from Swarbrick leads me to believe CW is toast:<br/>

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    As to Holtz the out clause allowed him to go to ND if the job was available. In that situation, there would be no need for Joyce to have to seek permission to talk to Lou because his contract already allowed it.

    Oh and if Swarbrick had said there were some backchanneling going on, it would logically follow that he'd already decided what to do after the season was over. Refusing to deny it would be tantamount (don't know if I've ever used that word before) to an admission that he was searching for someone new.

    I sure hope that "feelers" have been out. I'd rather see Charlie come back for another year rather than hire another Davie or Ty. I want to see a head coach come in with a staff that he knows and trusts. Gruden is out for me. His staff right now is Mike Tirico and Jaws.
     
  20. George Krebs

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    Statistically, Willingham or Davie would be upgrades at the moment.

    Charlie has been a miserable failure. Time to face that up and stop living in fantasyland. Money is not an object to this university but soon will be if we keep trotting out this type of product year after year.

    I know that I will be villified by some for being "heretical" but the facts are the facts. This may be the most important hire in the history of this program.

    I think he was fired last last week. And I expect some kind of announcement at any time. And I think they are very close to having his successor committed if it is not done already.