Spurrier heads SEC "hot seat" list

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  1. Motorcity Gator

    Motorcity Gator Well-Known Member

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    From CFN:

    http://cfn.scout.com/2/869611.html

    I think it's a reach to say SOS is on any hot seat but I think the article implies he has heated it up himself.
     
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    He's probably reaching the edge of frustration with the progress of the program under him. They're ok but can't get over the hump. At his age you have to wonder how long he'll want to battle to try and get them to the next level.
     
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    A couple of thoughts about Spurrier.

    First and foremost if he can't turn the Gamecocks into a consistent winner then that program is probably in a lot of trouble. Having Holtz and then Spurrier and not being able to win consistently does not bode well for the Gamecocks.

    Secondly, it would not surprise me if Spurrier just walks away. Us Gators never expected him to coach as long as Bowden or JoPa. We always expected him to retire to the golf course no later than in his early 60's which is pretty much where he is now. I think the biggest reason he went back to coaching was his lack of success in the NFL and his ego not being able to handle that. If it wasn't for Bernie Machan, our President, obviously wanting Meyer Spurrier may well have been at Florida now. I personally doubt he would have matched Meyer's two NC's, but he would be winning.

    My opinion is that he will improve this year and stay a little longer, but not a lot.
     
  4. Tennessee Tom

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    I totally agree that if Holtz followed by Spurrier can't fix the Gamecocks, Rusty just better throw in the towel. Sorry to our new Gamecock fan and with all due respect to him and the program, if those two coaches can't fix it, turn it into insurance as a total loss.

    I am surprised that ANY first year coach for ANY team would be given a 3 on the 5 scale for heat in the seat. I can guarantee you that Kiffin's seat is ICE COLD for several years to come.

    ... and NUTT is rated the same as Meyer??? Throw this list out the door. Alcohol was involved!
     
  5. Motorcity Gator

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    I don't agree because of the way he has gone about things and the stir he has created. He may win early and diffuse any "hot" seat discussions but I think his style has warmed his seat up considerably if he loses a lot right away.

    I think the expectation for Nutt at Ole Miss this year is higher than any team in Ole miss memory so if they get close to achieving that he is golden for years there.

    On Spurrier....I agree that more frustration may send him to the golf course
     
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    With all due respect, MCG, you're not a Tennessee fan. There is a small contingent of Tennessee fans that are not exactly pleased with how Kiffin has gone about things and that number could increase if he loses early. However, given the fact that he has assembled a dream group of assistants and was able in a matter of 2-3 months to assemble a top 10 recruiting class, including capturing the nation's consensus #1 recruit, I think it's safe to say most fans are completely happy with him. He may have looked a little ridiculous at times by speaking before he thought and he may have gone out of his way to ruffle some feathers of coaches and fans in the SEC but I assure you, he has lit a fire under this Tennessee program that went out years ago. It feels great to get that back and I'm afraid you're going to have to deal with his brashness for years to come and when the wins come against the Gators, I'll try not to rub it in too bad.
     
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    Hey guys, calling this a hot seat list is kind of a misnomer. None of these guys are going to get fired this year. But what the author factored in, whether we agree or not, are circumstances that could develop.

    I agree that Kiffen is not on the hot seat now, but what both Tom and AQUILA put in their posts could lead to some unrest among fans.

    Heck, Miles is on the list as and he won a NC just two years ago. Spurrier isn't going to get fired but he could leave.

    It's one persons opinion of how likely it is for the coaches to be there in a few years.

    I don't particularly like his comments on Meyer, bringing up Notre Dame again, but whatever.
     
  8. Motorcity Gator

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    I agree with Bill that for this year anyway it's tough to find a really hot seat for any coach in the SEC.

    Miles would have to suffer 3 more 4-5 loss seasons before getting the boot and I can't see any others out there with a chance to lose their job in under three years.

    I think LK at Tenn has done enough to energize his fan base to rally behind him in spite of some initial awkwardness. It will be interesting to see if it translates into wins on the field because that's the bottom line for fans of any high profile SEC school....of which Tenn is.
     
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    You Gator boyz need to give me your tee shirt sizes so I can hook you all up with ND shirts. I figure you will be joining the ranks of the Subway Alumni this year for sure. 8)
     
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    It has been a long time since the Tennessee coach was marked by the Florida fan base. Them wanting him fired, or at least glorifying the fact that he is on a hot seat list before his first game should be enough of a sign to rally ALL, not most Tennessee fans around the program.

    Thanks MCG. Keep it up. Find us more of these articles.
     
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    I think Gator fans always get jacked for the Vols but Kiffin has brought that to a higher level this year.

    We'll see who that benefits....Fla or Tenn. :wink:
     
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    Getting "jacked" and expressing dislike for the coach are two totally different situations. We still got "jacked for Georgia every year but never ever wished to see Ray Goof sit on the hot seat.

    Florida fans showing us the least amount of satisfaction that Kiffin is on a hot seat lest tells us that you don't want him at Tennessee. That is exactly who we want... someone that makes YOU uncomfortable.

    Go Lane
    Go Vols!
     
  13. Motorcity Gator

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    I would venture that taking our two-time national championship coach to task falsely when you are a college and SEC rookie is enough to cause our fan base to dislike the young Mr. Kiffin.

    :wink: :D
     
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    I'm with Tom on this one. Even if it's false excitement, it's better than dread. I don't dread the Vols playing the Gators this year. I look forward to it with a great amount of enthusiasm. Is it likely that Tennessee takes down the mighty Gators? Of course not. Is it possible? Absolutely. To me, Kiffin calling out the Gators is akin to making a $2 bet on a 200-1 shot. Is it smart? Not really. Is it likely to work out for you? No. However, if you lose, you've lost $2. If you win, you look like a genius and your reward is much greater than what your initial risk was. I think it's simply a calculated bet. Kiffin knows he doesn't stand much of a chance on September 19th but boy, if he wins, the resulting momentum might be enough to carry the Vols to an SEC championship. Pretty smart, if you ask me.
     
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    HOPE

    That is what the fans of a program that's been down need to refuel their enthusiasm. Take it from one who's been there recently.

    That's what Kiffin brings to Tennessee fans with his brashness.

    That's what makes Tennessee fans happy to plunk down the $2 bet.
     
  16. Motorcity Gator

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    Without so much as one win as a college head coach and a losing record in the NFL I am just curious as to why Vol fans are so keyed on this guy winning. I have to wonder why the effusive enthusiasm.

    In any event hope does fire up the fans and I have to believe almost any new coach could do the same for the Vol program because he would be new and start out with no losses and a brand new approach.

    In 2002 I felt or rather hoped UF had the right guy with Ron Zook beginning a new season and that the program would carry forward with greatness in Spurrier's absence but I was sadly mistaken as I sat in the heat of Florida Field and witnessed Willis McGahee wear out the Florida defense and the announcer's voice from calling out his name all afternoon.

    Miami thumped the Gators and I learned a harsh lesson that hope isn't everything.
     
  17. Tennessee Tom

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    Dave,

    I know you are a smart guy... a little dense at times though. I'll explain it one more time. Try your hardest to take this in:

    For many years we have had a coach that would take jabs from the likes of Spuzzie and shrug it off saying: "Let them take their jabs. We will not take that route." His passive approach rubbed off on the team. We now have a coach that will not only return fire. He will fire the first shots over the bow of the opponents. The fact that he is in your head is exactly what we have been looking for. No, he has not won a single college game. Surprise, surprise... he hasn't been in one. He lost in the NFL with the Alzheimer's poster boy Al Davis as an owner. Hell, Al Davis has been dead since 2002 and has had Bo Jackson's hand up his rear as a puppeteer since then.

    Let's see... Just what was the Raiders record the 4 years before Kiffin?

    2006 Won 2 Lost 14
    2005 Won 4 Lost 12
    2004 Won 5 Lost 11
    2003 Won 4 Lost 12

    He didn't exactly take over a powerhouse now did he?
     
  18. Motorcity Gator

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    Not in my head Tom....not in Meyer's head....not in anybody's "head" Tom.

    Is he being talked about by the college football universe and has he rankled a few...including SouCar, Spurrier, Meyer, a H/S coach in Fla and Gators fans.....hell yes he has done that.

    Has he won a game.....of course not.

    Oakland has no bearing of course on his college record because he has no record.

    He definitely isn't under anyone's radar at the moment but I am not so sure that is a very good place to be in the SEC.