http://cfn.scout.com/2/866531.html According to these guys he is on the verge of "all time greatness"....
My gosh, if you're finding this many articles in friggin' May on how great the Gators are, God help us all by the time August rolls around...
All time greatness - So, is he going to win the NC and run partially off the field while ripping off his tear away pants to reveal his teebows ala Brandi Chastain? :shock: Sorry... couldn't resist... But you must admit... It will leave a picture in you mind for quite some time! 8)
He has had a great career no doubt. Was he a part of 4 undefeated teams that won 3 out of 4 Nat'l Championships, like Irish QB John Lujack? Did he in addition to playing All American at QB also play All American level DB like Irish QB John Lujack?
tebow <t>Watch what you say Terry, these gator fans get real nasty if you say anything that would put Urbie or Timmy in anything but a positive light. Thus, a "no comment" is as far as I will personally go.</t>
Lujack had some real comparable stats to Tebow's in his two years: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Lujack :roll:
His stats prove the point when ever you try to say somebody is the greatest of all time in any sport. In his day games were in general much lower scoring, the rules were even a little different and of course the guys played both ways. The ball was shaped slightly different, everything was different. So Lujack is considered one of the great QB's of all-time, yet every QB at every school in Div1 football these days would have better stats than he did.... Tebow is a great college QB, I don't think anybody will argue that or at least they shouldn't. But you have to put it in perspective as well. I still think that I would rather have Vince Young as my College QB. With his athleticism he could take it to the house at any time and while he wasn't known for being a great thrower he was very effective. He like other great QB's raised the level of play of his teammates.
The Wiki entry is incomplete. He played 3 years at ND, not two. He also served 3 years in the USN during WWII. Looking at that 1947 Heisman list, there were some real great players on it. 1947 Heiman Voting 1. John Lujack, Notre Dame (742) 2. Bob Chappuis, Michigan (555) 3. Doak Walker, SMU (196) 4. Charley Conerly, Mississippi (186) 5. Harry Gilmer, Alabama (115) 6. Bobby Layne, Texas (74) 7. Chuck Bednarik, Penn (65) 8. Bill Swiacki, Columbia (61)
Did Vince Young or Johnny Lujack ever give any immortalized speeches or pep talks on the sidelines to spur their team on to a very tough...needed victory? Also...I checked out that 1948 ND schedule or thereabouts and I have to propose that these days a champion plays 14 games and in the golden oldie days ND played only 10 games. But...somehow you guys will offer that playing only 10 games is so much more of a test...... :roll: Give me a break..... :lol:
tebow <r>I tried to tell you guys, anything negative about timmy or urbie and it's like talking trash about Obama....oooooh everyone likes the Messiah right! ?<br/> <br/> These gator fans are a mean bunch. <E>:wink:</E> <E>:roll:</E></r>
I think Tebow is a great athlete, leader, person and winner. As QB I wouldn't rate him in the Top Five of even the current crop. He doesn't possess the classic qualities of a great thrower nor does he exhibit much pocket presence. The things he does routinely as a college QB do not translate to the NFL at all.
Really? Is that your criteria? Come on now Dave... you gotta try harder than that. I think AJ just blew your theory up.
It's what Tebow did after the Ole Miss game....actually immediately afterward.. that sealed his legend at Florida. I have to wonder what he can do for an encore.
But if this guy walks on water, why didn't he do it IN the Ole Miss game? From the recap of the game: You guys pay Urban Meyer to coach, not Tebow. Also, I'd have to say that there have been other players who had given great speeches or led great finishes to the season and not all of them are as well documented due to the changes in coverage. Just accept the fact that sometime in the next 60 years, there will be another kid doing wonderful things on the field and somewhere will be some jackass saying that 'Tim Tebow didn't have his numbers or (insert heroic feat here) moment.' You can't prove or disprove it. Why is it so important to you that he be labeled the greatest player ever?
Tim Tebow is clearly the greatest player in the history of Florida football, greater than Emmit Smith or any of the past FL QBs, including Steve Spurrier. As great as Spurrier was, he played in an era of only 10-11 games, so his accomplishments cannot compare to Tebow's.