Who you callin a cheater?

Good one George!

 

Kiffin Reprimanded
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02/05/2009 |

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. -- Southeastern Conference Commissioner Mike Slive has issued a public reprimand to University of Tennessee head football coach Lane Kiffin for his public comments made earlier today.

"Coach Kiffin has violated the Southeastern Conference Code of Ethics," Slive said. "SEC Bylaw 10.5.1 clearly states that coaches and administrators shall refrain from directed public criticism of other member institutions, their staffs or players."

"The phone call to which Coach Kiffin referred to in his public comments is not a violation of SEC or NCAA rules. We expect our coaches to have an understanding and knowledge of conference and NCAA rules."

http://www.secsports.com/index.php?s=&url_channel_id=2&url_article_id=12157&url_subchannel_id=&change_well_id=2

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OK now complaining about the UT staff instructing the kid to lie seems a bit odd from Gators. I mean it was the Gator staff that told Trattou to lie to ND coaches. It was the Gator staff that lied to Omar Hunter about Mattison leaving for the NFL. Pot meet Kettle. :shock:

 

Sounds like someone ran crying to teacher. :wink:

 

Well Terry ...... do you have that quote from Greg Mattison (or Urban Meyer) where he stated in front of the media that he told Trattou to lie about his "silent commitment" to UF? I've given you that re Kiffin and his "plan' with Richardson .... not just a fan rumor posted on a football message board.

And WRT to Omar Hunter ... and what the UF staff told him re Mattison ..... #1 it is nothing like a headcoach of one school telling a recruit to lie about his public commitment to another as Kiffin admitted doing. And #2 I'm not convinced your belief as to what happened and when .... is accurate. I give you the following:

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20080503/NEWS/478794850

 

The SEC has a Code of Ethics? Were they written by Darwin?

 

Richardson's HS headcoach repsonds to Tennessee headcoach's unfounded allegations:

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/gator_clause/2009/02/pahokee-coach-confused-saddened-by-kiffins-comments.html

 

Well of course I don't have a transcript, video or audio recording of the Gator staff lying to those kids. But I am convinced of the accuracy of the reports of how the recruitment of Trattou went, that he was told told to lie to ND coaches about his recruitment by UF. Of course the other side of that coin is that the kid didn't have to listen to them. Either way I think he was not going to ND because we had a change in DCoord and defense and was convinced the 3-4 was not in his best interest. Doesn't change that UF recruiting tactics, while 100% legal, didn't pass the smell test.

As far as Hunter goes, the story is that again that he was told not to tell ND coaches that he was going to trip to UF, and then when ND coaches found out about it and also found out that Mattison was going to the NFL, they told him about Mattison going to the NFL. He called UF and asked about it but was told that Mattison was not going to the NFL. Again, nothing illegal, just questionable ethics and BTW Hunter could have called ND and told them he was having 2nd thoughts and wanted to visit UF, but he didn't. I'm guessing he didn't want to give up bird in hand till he knew for sure about the 1 in the bush.

But kids lie as well, Oliver who was a Vol verbal till Fulmer ran into trouble and switched to ND, lied to ND coaches when they called to ask him if what they heard was true that he was going to Knoxville on an offical visit, he said he wasn't going. Then he went the next day, already had his airline ticket. When ND found out he lied they pulled the scholarship offer, not that it was any big deal since Oliver clearly preferred Tenn over ND anyhow and just needed to feel that things were stable again down there so he would feel comfortable.

I don't care if kids switch their verbals, I do think that once they verbal they should quit taking offical visits. They want their scholarship secure, but still be able to look around. If that's the deal then the school should be able to look around as well for a better player and if they find one pull the offer with no bad publicity. As Charlie said...if you're lookin' we're lookin'.

 

A few things:

1. The irony of Florida fans crying about the brash, young, new coach in the league running his mouth is not lost on this old-fart in training.

2. Not that any of you pay attention to west coast football, but the mentality that guys like Coach Orgeron and Lane Kiffin helped build at USC was an 'us against the world' mentality. Pete Carroll is the creamy smooth whipped topping sitting atop a tornado of nasty, road-warrior, street thug rage. They set up a day-to-day gladiator academy in which the highest levels of competition are faced on the practice field, while they hold nothing but contempt for their opponents... especially some of the higher profile programs out there.

Now of course, USC's sins have caught up to them. You only have so much energy to channel and the fact that they clearly don't give a rats behind about the perceived lower level teams in the conference. That is precisely why they have been denied the NC in several seasons. Their sins of vanity burn them annually, but make no mistake.. there is no team in the college football world that you want to play in a marquis matchup like the USC Trojans. (insert gloating Terry O'Keefe Vince Young line here... and Terry should be proud btw no one else is coming close)

It would appear, from this outsider's perspective, that Lane is trying to do the same thing at Tennessee.

Now keep in mind, even USC wasn't a "turn around in a year" type of deal.. But once they got the kids to believe, they have been on fire ever since. I will be interested to see if he can get this to work at Tennessee. I am sure Urbie and the boys will all be about RUTS next season and they should... but don't think this is one of those southern 'one and done' kinda things.

If they are able to do what they did at USC, they will give no quarter or ask for it. It is a brutal double edged sword.

From my perspective... none of the parties involved here really know what all they are getting into here. This should be fun to watch.

 

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It will be interesting to see that's for sure.

I think if Urban feels he is being challenged then he might just try and make a point....either in RUTS or a la the TO at the end of the Georgia game, etc. (after he was challenged by Richt last year.)

I guess we'll see what Urbs is made of but if I were Kiff I would have waited until Tebow and Spikes were long gone and the game was in Knoxville before such an in your face challenge.

 

No reason to feel challenged. I mean, what could Kiffen have that "urbs" might possibly envy?

 

Oh my!

 

Whoa...I have new respect for Kiffin!!

But seriously he's sort of stepped in it. I read someplace that the SEC has told him Urban didn't violate any rules and to cool it. But also if you remember from the video I posted he made some comments about Pahokee that they are responding to now.

Pahokee Coach Confused

It's great drama no doubt, but the bottom line is that it's a lot of huffing and puffing and in the end it'll be settled on the field every Sept either in Gainesville or Knoxville.

 

Corey,

I've heard enough tales on the USC recruiting machine and how things are done in South Central over the years from you and JO'Co to know that Pete didn't invent it. He's just updated and improved it!! :shock: :shock:

 

Well well well where to begin.

It's one thing to recruit players committed to the other team, I have no problem with that. I have no problem with two of our commits changing to Tennessee, that's their right, no big deal.

However I have a problem with a guy who makes a public announcement that Urban Meyer broke NCAA rules when he in fact did not. I am not sure if I think Kiffen is a liar or just plain stupid. Either way he's Tennessee's problem and not our problem.

All the Gators did was call him on his lie/inaccuracy, the SEC office reprimanded him.

Terry, I have to admit being a little surprised at your outlook. You may believe Meyer did those things and in fact I don't know if he did or not. If he did I would say to you that if you think Charlie would not do the same I'm afraid you are a bit naive.

Kiffen also took a shot at the school that Richardson went to, how they wouldn't honestly transmit the LOI. Give me a break.

Sorry Aquila, your coach is a loose cannon and if he doesn't grow up he's going to cause your program a lot of heartaches.

There is not a coach in the SEC that I have not respected until this point but now there is one.

 

From ESPN.

ESPN on Kiffen

This is the same guy who bragged about the score he made on the NCAA recruiting test where he said he only missed 1 question out of 25.

Maybe this was the question?

Or do you think he may have cheated on the test?

 

Bill

HAHAHA good one.

Terry,

PC puts the smooth face out in front of it.. but unlike previous HCs, he harvests and nourishes that environment.

 

C'mon, Gator fans, you're reading WAAAYYY too much into these statements. I really have too much to say to take the time to comment on this right now but I think you have to understand the comments Kiffin made were made to excite a crowd. Was it crossing the line? Maybe. Was it really meant to harm the integrity of the University of Florida? I don't think so. I hope the SEC realizes that they have set a dangerous precedent by reprimanding one of their member coaches for "directing public criticism of other member institutions, their staffs or players." I fully expect to see every coach who makes a negative comment about any coach or program in front of a group of boosters to be publicly reprimanded by the SEC commissioner. The seriousness of the comments Kiffin made about the fax being delivered is being vastly overstated as well, IMO. It's all about perspective, guys. Give me a break!!!

Corey, I like the sound of that....

 

Aq,

As a fan of the 2 main rivals of the Trojans... it isn't fun being on the receiving end of it.