Any comments on what went down between the 2 MSU players and the Michigan Player? I see the 2 MSU kids were kicked out, and that the UM player was the same kid who was also beaten up by UM footballer Mike Milano last fall. Apparently the UM kids dad went to the MSU lockeroom and asuaulted one of the MSU players. I guess the really sad thing was the game was essentially over when the incident happened. MSU/UM Hockey Incident
My first thought was that either Steve Kampfer is a very, very unlucky guy or has a really big mouth.
Gipper echos my thoughts here. Now some of my own. It's f***ing HOCKEY! You make knee to knee contact even on a legal hit and you know you're going to get chipped. At a minimum you better expect a face wash when the play is dead. Someone is going to let you know you're an sphincter. I don't intend to justify the play of the two. They were clearly wrong. They were kids and acted poorly in the heat of the moment. I have a much, much bigger problem with the Dad going into the locker room to attack the player. One was a snap decision made in less than a second. The other a long parade down the stairs and into the locker room. I'm just saying that (as a former teammate in multiple sports) if someone, anyone were to come into our locker room and attack one of my team mates... I'd be all over them and I would openly judge any team mate that did not do the same. There's no high sticking or slashing in the locker room. As a coach, of course, my perspective and actions would be entirely different. As a parent, I understand my role. My son is my responsibility. I also have a responsibility to my son, myself and the other parents to be the gosh darned adult and act accordingly....responsibly. Call me old school but kids, young adults and women can act foolishly but grown ass men are suppose to tow the line and cannot afford to make such mistakes. If we can't expect that of ourselves in this society, then who can we count on?
Sid I think you missed the quipper's intent with his post...the guy has been beat up 2x this year....that's some bad luck or something. :roll:
Sid I don't in any way condone what those M players did. In fact, I disagree with Corey. If I'm a dad and my kid gets beat up badly and I'm not there I wish I'd had a chance to square accounts. Then all of a sudden it's deja vu but this time, I have a chance to get involved. No one is pressing charges because they know this guy got pushed way too far. And just because some punk is in his locker room makes him untouchable, **** em.
Gip, I deleted my post because it was a kneejerk reaction to Corey's post and I should not have posted it in the first place. I threw your name in because, like Terry said, I missed the point of your post. One more time, I need to remind myself to stay out of hockey conversations. This time was a mental lapse but I corrected it by deleting the post.
I probably would get into Hockey if South Carolina had a team but all we have is a club team. Same goes for Rugby.
It's a club sport at Texas as well. I think the only southern team to actually have a regular Hockey team is Alabama-Huntsville. Why they have one I have no idea. Maybe they have a lot of snowbirds who have moved there.
Terry, Hockey is way more popular than you'd think. It isn't football, baseball, basketball etc but there are more fans than people would realize. There's a lot of people in North Alabama that aren't from the South, and there are a good bit of Southern folk who grew up with both minor league and college hockey in that town. Sid, I have no idea what you wrote but I will just assume it wasn't pretty I have no idea if the kid was running his mouth or not, but true random acts like that are rare.. Possible, but rare. I have no idea why he got beat up on campus by the football player, nor do I know if he was running his mouth on the ice... That said.. I will float 2 scenarios out there. Baseball: Your kid hits a HR, he may or may not show up the pitcher verbally. Who knows? You certainly don't.. Next AB, the pitcher dunks your kid in the temple knocking him out cold. The pitcher is ejected. It appears the kid's coach isn't too happy with him but the only form of discipline that can be handed out to date has.. (the ejection)... You make your way down the bleachers and out of the stadium to attack the kid as he enters the bus... Is the parent most wrong here? Not that anyone before was right... but the parent, to me at least, is most wrong. Football: Your son gets chopped blocked on the line. Worse, it was from behind and your son is clearly hurt... The referee penalizes the team and ejects the kid from the game. You leave the stands and attack the kid in the locker room. My point here is that the parents should be held to a different and higher standard. When you let your child play contact sports, you are placing them in an environment in which they may well be hurt and be wronged after doing nothing wrong themselves. There is a time and place to handle these things. You don't charge the locker room to take justice into your own hands and attack the kid. Not in my opinion at least. As I stated, my reaction to this if I am the coach is a lot different than that of a teammate. As a coach, my only concern would be the safe extraction of my player(s) from that situation until someone gets a hold of that parent and gets them the hell out of there. I'll hand out the discipline when we can properly address the situation, which is exactly what seems to have happened here. As for this particular situation... what bothers me is the character testimony of the other coaches about the kid who did the attacking. He isn't a good. What set him off?
When the pitcher throws at the kid he may be trying to dust him not hit him. When the football player chopblocks he may or not be trying to hurt him and may be just committing another penalty that occurs in football. But when one player sucker punches a hockey player and knocks him to the ground and the second takes his stick and hits him when he's on the ground defenseless there's no doubt what just happened. When Bertuzzi did something like that he was prosecuted for assault. And he wasn't the first so was Marty McSorley. Just because you compete in a contact sport doesn't mean that someone can criminally assult you. So the kid was suspended. Maybe he was sent to bed without supper. Maybe if someone beat the crap out of him he'd actually get the message.
Maybe there is another way to do things? Maybe someone could have set the example? Maybe that someone could have been his parent...
Hockey isn't as good for dentists since they started wearing masks and mouth guards....don't get many opportunities like this!! :wink: :wink:
Here's a letter send to Michigan students via email before the Fighting Irish came to Yost Arena last weekend.