No, I'm quite certain that he meant the '97 season since he said: Tennessee beat the Gators and did win the championship in that '98 season.
Corey How many conference games did each Pac-10 team play in 2007? How many conference champs did the Pac-10 have after the 2007 season? The NCAA formalizing the 12th games has nothing to do ... positively or negatively .... with the deficiencies in the Pac-10's system for deciding it's annual football champion(s). LMAO that you complain about others not responding to you questions ... but you choose to ignore so very many specifically directed at you. Of course ... answering those questions would pretty much refute your position that the Pac-10 has the best methodology for determining annual football champ ... or champions, in the case of the Pac-10!!!!!!! Again I'll ask ................. assuming USC loses to UCLA and Oregon UCLA loses to Oregon and Stanford Oregon loses to Stanford and Cal Stanford loses to USC and Cal Cal loses to USC and UCLA and all other Pac-10 teams have at least 3 comnference losses ..... which team is the Pac-10 champion? USC? UCLA? Oregon? Stanford? Cal? Or ... all of the above? In the proposed 16-team playoff systems, which of the 5 Pac-10 teams with an 8-2 conference record would receive the automatic bid into the "playoff tournament"?
Yet the SEC allows the teams to anoint themselves "Co-Division Champions". Where does this Traveshamockery end?
I thought you read the whole site Gaterz? The reason I get frustrated about questions not being answered is that I ask them, and rather than have them answered, I am met by 3 questions from you, 2 from Dave and 4 from Bill... excuse me for laughing off, or possibly even missing, some of them. As for your answer, it is right here: And therein lies the problem with your example, you would need to provide the results for the entire season and league standings. Btw-does the SEC allow Co-Division champs?
Gaterz, That's a lovely little sea kitten you have a pic of there. http://www.peta.org/sea_kittens/index.asp BTW, I think PETA members should be renamed IDIOTS.
"A spokesman for Rep. Bobby Bright, an Alabama Democrat and Auburn University graduate, said his reasons for not supporting the measure were simpler: He simply couldn't bring himself to support a school that is such a bitter rival of his state's universities." This is stated in the article below from CBSSportsline: http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/11289874 It's the usual rumblings from Congress about the BCS vs. playoffs etc. except the pot was stirred a little harder by Obama this time around. I suspect nothing changes....and for now Florida is the most beautiful team entered in the 2009 pageant....once again.. :wink:
So IC ... in my scenario, which team gets the Rose Bowl bid and which one is the Pac-10 champ? Or ... is there more than one champion? 8) And BTW ... based upon these queries from you and Rick: It appears that you guys are viewing the Pac-10 conference champion(s) as determined by the system utilized .... to be equivalent to, on par with an SEC divisional title. Huh ... that's an intersting perspective.
Gentleman, I can see where this argument is trying to go, so let me settle any confusion that is going on; In the History of mankind, and proved by the Sagarin ratings and not to mention the countless ESPN polls and Computer playoffs/rankings, the 1995 NEBRASKA CORNHUSKERS remain as the STANDARD OF PERFECTION. So, unless you truly enjoy your feeble attempts to try and generate any other course of thinking, I highly suggest that you come to firm grips with the reality that they are, and will be, the greatest College Football Team ever assembled. I very rarely mention this, but for those that forget from time to time... WHAT IS UNDERSTOOD, NEVER NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED.
That's it, Gaterz? A derivative response? Bravo. :roll: Looking forward to your "I know you are, but what am I?" retort.
Oh no, it is your turn. I gave you the answer, it is right there in black and white. You didn't provide me with enough information. If you go through that tie-breaker checklist, you'd see that Same question for you, this time using your SEC model..but with a twist. In the SEC West, you have 4 two-loss teams as you do in the SEC East. Who goes? Or the far more likely, thanks to the big bowl full of awesome that the SEC is, would be 3 one-loss teams in each division. The one-loss teams all beat one another. I believe this is the type of year the ESPN type folks were predicting for you guys this season... Who goes then?
That's an easy answer IC ... whichever team wins the "divisional" tiebreaker as defined by the SEC. That tiebreaker can be found at: www.secsports.com And .... to take the answer a bit further, whichever teams are selected to play in the SECCG based upon the "divisional" tiebreaker ... will in fact play for the the SEC conference championship ... and the SEC will have "a conference champ" based upon the outcome of that game. Now, back to the questions to which you have NOT responded .... USC loses to UCLA and Oregon UCLA loses to Oregon and Stanford Oregon loses to Stanford and Cal Stanford loses to USC and Cal Cal loses to USC and UCLA and all other Pac-10 teams have at least 3 comnference losses ..... which team is the Pac-10 champion? USC? UCLA? Oregon? Stanford? Cal? Surely ... it's not all of the above? Also, in the proposed 16-team playoff systems, which of the 5 Pac-10 teams with an 8-2 conference record would receive the automatic bid into the "playoff tournament"? :?: :?: :?: 8)
My point is made, your silence indicates acceptance. Gentleman, don't get me wrong, I have to live with this. But it's a burden I've commited to carrying.
No I not only gave you the answer, I cited the page on the Pac10 page for you. Hell, I cited and linked you to it. I find it funny that you appear to suggest that a Pac10 champ in that situation is somehow not legitimate when your SEC Divisional tiebreakers are basically the same system. So you have a legitimate champ by putting up 2 illegitimate teams? You're talking in circles now.