Skybox posters prior to Bowl Season: A bowl season SB discussion between SEC fan and unamed PAC 10 booster presently residing in SECLand
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I'm actually not into the best ever thing. I thin there are a lot of players that could carry that mantel if there was such a thing, like everyone listed here. Tebow will always be a personal favorite as will Jim Brown. Anyway I'm a happy camper.
I hear you, Bill...Congrats, btw...Fla played (another) great game. Tebow is a great, great player...Archie Griffin was a great (college) player...Earl Campbell was a great player...Gayle Sayers was a great player...Marshall Faulk was a great player... The thing I feel about Jim Brown is this...he set the standard which continues to be the measuring stick by which greatness is compared. It reminds me of years ago when we were shopping for a piano...didn't want a grand or baby grand but wanted to get a good one. Everywhere we went the salesman would show us what they had, and they would compare their piano to a Hamilton Studio Upright..."This is (just like, as good as, almost as good as, uses the same production concept, is a better deal for the price than...etc. etc.) a Hamilton Studio Upright... So we bought a Hamilton Studio Upright.
I think Tebow is the PERFECT player for the system in which he plays. He has all of the intangibles you look for and he can run fast enough while also running like a bull. He's a great player, no doubt. The unfortunate thing for Tennessee fans is that I think he'll definitely be back next season. The performance he gave last night proved that he is the great college player we all think him to be while, at the same time, proving that his game/skill set is not made for the NFL as a QB. As I've said before, if anyone can make the transition I think it's him but there are certain things you just can't learn. I don't think he has an NFL arm. If he is wise I think he'll settle into being a pro bowl type TE at the next level.
Hard to prove TT is the best ever, as that's really a subjective analysis, especially between players of different eras. However, I think it's justified that he be considered in a discussion of such ... especially when one considers the rather unique nature of the guy ... especially in what he does with his football success, when he's involved in matters away from football. He is talented; he is successful. And, he is a very special person, who has a "purpose" that is different than most.
Agreed. My opinion today is much different from a few days ago. Heisman Trophy aside, he has led his team to two national championships. There is no question who is the leader of this team. Most QBs, while leaders of their teams, do not set examples with their physical play. He gives up his body willingly, which can only inspire his teammates to reach for new heights. He clearly deserves to be in the conversation.
Tommy Frazier did well for himself in the NC dept I believe. Also, I'd still say the greatest footballer ever was:
Yes. I too believe that off the field considerations should carry of TON of weight when comparing players. Not.
And, As I previously stated ... this is just a subjective analysis. There's no "right" and no "wrong".
Bill Plaschke of the L.A. Times writes "There's no debate about the greatness of Tim Tebow". And I understand Tebow did the circumcisions for free, although he did accept tips. :wink: