Here is CBS Sportsline's take.....which reflects my analysis: "Comment: It all comes down to the BCS. With Oklahoma's thrashing of Texas Tech and a victory over Oklahoma State next week, we predict the Sooners will be the highest ranked team in the Big 12 South and earn a spot in the conference title game. All it would have to do is beat Missouri to earn a spot in the BCS National Championship game. If Texas is ranked higher than the Sooners when the BCS is released, then Texas would be predicted to earn this spot. As for the other team ... we predict Florida will beat Alabama in the SEC Championship game, setting up a No. 1 Florida vs. No. 2 Oklahoma in Miami for the national championship. Florida would be playing for its second BCS title in the past three years, beating Ohio State two years ago. Oklahoma would be playing in its fourth title game in the decade."
Why is everyone crying for Texas? For as long as this sport has been around, the polls have dictated what happens. They change the names and the formulas, but the story remains the same. One of the old axioms of that system: If you are going to lose, do it early. Everyone wants to talk about the head to head between Texas and OU. That discussion is only relevant if they are in 2-way tie. Assuming the South ends in a three way, it no longer matters. Tech has as much claim to being in the champ game as Texas, SINCE THEY BEAT them, but I don't hear anyone saying how unfair it is the Horns might be taken instead... :roll: So... whoever wins the beauty contest at the end goes... just like always. Assuming they win out, that will be OU.
Not true KP. If you'll remember, I have long held that you guys should go to a 10 team conference and play the whole damn thing off head to head. I hate the super conference that leaves us guessing who is who... all- Every year there is an SEC team that the rest of us have to stomach as being 'good' when the reality is that they've proven nothing against anyone outside of the SEC. This year, that team is Ole Miss. I can't really say I am surprised. I mean, Arkansas was destroyed by USC and in each season that was blown off because Arkansas was playing much better once SEC play started...or so we were told. IMHO-Ole Miss is like an ACC team.. in fact a mid-to-lower-level ACC team... Just... average
Corey....I know how you feel about the SEC and about Florida in particular. You must think even less of Ohio State given the BCS title results of the last two years. Oh well....the Big 12 will get it's crack at the SEC this year.....but say it now if you don't think the Big 12 is very worthy. If you say it now....before a possible SEC win in that game then you have credibility. But don't wait until after the fact and then say the Big 12 ain't all that good anyways.... 8)
Here are the results of the last 4 Cotton Bowls which should have featured higher ranked teams from the Big 12 vs. lower ranked teams from the SEC due to bowl tie in scenarios that place higher seeded Big 12 teams in the Cotton: ( Big 12 #2 vs. SEC 4 or 5 ) Jan. 1, 2007 Auburn 17, Nebraska 14 Jan. 2, 2006 Alabama 13, Texas Tech 10 Jan. 1, 2005 Tennessee 38, Texas A&M 7 Jan. 2, 2004 Mississippi 31, Oklahoma State 28 I can't see that the SEC has had that home field advantage that Corey likes to drone on about either.
WTF are you talking about? How did we get all the way to Ohio State? I love how SEC fans hang their claims of supremacy on certain games (such as Oregon St losing to LSU at LSU @ night...in a game in which the Lou Groza winner shanks 4 FGs and allows LSU to escape by the skin of their teeth.... but totally gloss over USC's beat downs they put on both Arkansas and Auburn. They talk about UT winning in Knoxville, but forget about them losing to Cal the next year at Cal. Somehow the Tennessee loss to UCLA (2 equally crappy teams) didn't take place, but you folks all seem to remember Georgia (3rd place in the SEC) beating Arizona State (3rd worst in the Pac10). You see, the difference is... I don't see you as any different. The disconnect is that you believe you are playing in a league of immortals that are heads and tails better than anyone. Do I really have to re-hash the 'SEC has 4 national title contenders'' thread? You have great teams...good teams...average teams...and bad teams..even sh*tty teams.. We all do. Welcome to reality. Not every kid is special. Not everyone gets a trophy. It always take us a full football season to get to this point...but here we are.
MCG, please be SURE of your facts when you throw them up. "Here are the results of the last 4 Cotton Bowls which should have featured higher ranked teams from the Big 12 vs. lower ranked teams from the SEC due to bowl tie in scenarios that place higher seeded Big 12 teams in the Cotton: ( Big 12 #2 vs. SEC 4 or 5 )" The Cotton gets to pick an XII rep first after the BCS bowls have chosen. They are NOT tied to the 2nd (or 3rd) place team. They choose who they think will fill the stadium. As an example, in 2005 when A&M was punked by Tenn, they were by no stretch of the imagination the 2nd place team. In fact my kids were probably about 5th at best, but the Cotton knew we'd buy tickets... Do you really believe Nebraska under Callahan was EVER the 2nd best team in the conference?? Of even third???? C'mon. It may be that Florida is the best team in the country, and better than whoever they play from the XII. BUT, that certainly doesn't mean the rest of the SEC is anywhere near that good. They aren't, with the possible exception of Bama, and that will be revealed in a few weeks. :roll:
Scott, as usual, makes a good point. I thought the beset Big12 team NOT in the BCS went to the Holiday bowl??
Suddenly Old Miss is a power by virtue of their win over LSU? They are not completely worthless to be sure, but lets not get carried away. We know they are not as good as Wake, Vandy and So Car in case we've forgotten....but congrats to them on their victory nonetheless....
Never said Ole Miss was a power....just a pretty good team and a little better than average. The SEC in the last few years has held it's own in the Cotton Bowl and it is the CBS Sportsline site that says it is Big 12 #2 but for certain the SEC doesn't put it's top three or four in there either as that is usually 2 BCS teams, one Cap One and one Outback before the Cotton gets filled. Sometimes the Outback team and the Cotton team could be interchangeable for the SEC however. I realize the Holiday does get top quality Big 12 teams also but I also think you don't see Big 12 #4 or #5 in the Cotton Bowl either. I don't disagree with that quote at all. But I also don't say Michigan is the same team they were last year any more than I would say Ole Miss is the same team they were last year. Obviously it is different for every team every year. I am not saying Northwestern is the crappy team they were last year but I could if I just wanted to be generically incorrect and not take this year's NW for it's own merits.
I know Corey, that was just a dig at your opinion about our conference playoff. In my opinion Notre Dame needs to join the Big 11 and then they could be the Big 12A and have a playoff as well. :wink: